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Ken fails on Yahoo Answers (Again)
On Conservapedia's mainpage left Ken claims "American Christian confounds atheists"img, which in reality is Ken himself under another obvious pseudonym. On the actual link is Ken asking what atheists will do since their numbers are supposedly in decline, thinking he has all atheists behind the eight ball with his ever so clever thinking, (in reality just a link back to his personal QE blog with the same poorly researched claims). The results are predictably hilarious as he is repeatedly raked over the coals as he is continuously shown wrong in both his premise and in the facts, all the while being ruthlessly mocked. Fun stuff.--BMcP - Just an astronomy guy 08:45, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
- The minute I saw the headline, I though "Ah, Ken's Yahoo-spamming again." What a sad man. Also "Thoughtful and effective Christian evangelism vs. inept atheism evangelism" - Ken, I hope your English teacher rises from the grave and murders you. More proof that the whole "people pay me to write" is another of your fantasies. --Psygremlin (talk) 09:12, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
- DeMyer's Law: The minute you start making your own evidence to support your arguments, you have lost the argument. --K. (talk) 10:27, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
- So is that going to be DeMyer's Fourth Law or DeMyer's Minus Oneth Law? --جئت ورأيت أنا القرف gross, isn't it? 10:51, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
- Ken, you are a lying sack of shit. Not one single atheist was "confounded" by your question. Now, why don't you sock up as "TheAtheist" or some other equally unconvincing name and post, "Oh, no atheism is in decline. I must be wrong! Save, me Jeremus!" then sock up again and vote for that as the best answer over and over again? Go on. You know you were going to do that anyway.--Spud (talk) 13:12, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
- Wow, Ken, epic fail there! Darkmind1970 (talk) 14:56, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
- Has anyone ever said what pathetic loser Ken is? </rhetorical> PongoOrangutans are sceptical 16:28, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
- anyone who has to stoop to trolling Yahoo! Answers has lost the
gameargument.- And all reference to the American Christian who confounded atheists on Yahoo Answers (by getting forty-one of them to laugh at him and tell him that a creationist blog is not a reliable source) has disappeared without trace not only from the Main page but from its talk page too.--Spud (talk) 10:49, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- Ken wins another debate! Ole! Ole! Ole!img --Psygremlin (talk) 11:52, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- This is how Ken seems to spend his free time. Engaging in circle jerks on Yahoo! Answers. I guess it's only fitting that he'd spend time there. Unlike Conservapedia, this site full of
brainless idiotsthe Best of the Public gets tons and tons of traffic because it doesn't ban everyone on sight. Ochotonaprincepsnot a pokémon 1013 points 14:01, 7 August 2012 (UTC)- "Why do atheists constantly bash God but are eerily silent on Satan?" That must be amongst the dumbest thing I have ever see Ken utter. Here's a thought Ken - try getting Satanism taught in schools and then see what atheists say. --PsyGremlinPraat! 14:09, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- To give Ken the absolute minimum fairness, he didn't actually ask that question, he just answered it. He answered with a Creationist high-five, but still, we can't blame Ken for every bit of stupidity there. And pretty much almost all the other answers tore it apart as usual. Naturally, the questioner picked Ken as the best answer for being a good circle-jerk partner. Ochotonaprincepsnot a pokémon 1013 points 14:26, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Oh, and to compound it, Ken's had his stupid shit deleted on multiple occasions off Yahoo! Answers as well. Note that this is a Google Cache copy of his question ("Why did my question get deleted did I make the evolutnists cry?") because it was also deleted, presumably for giving the same link that likely caused Ken to violate the community standards with the first deleted question. Ken's not used to being on the business end of the delete/block/oversight stick. Bonus: The linked site is straight out of Web Design 101 circa 1995. Ochotonaprincepsnot a pokémon 1013 points 14:49, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Okay, this one takes the cake. Ken spreads unvarnished blatant homophobia on Yahoo! Answers. Ochotonaprincepsnot a pokémon 1013 points 14:54, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- "Why do atheists constantly bash God but are eerily silent on Satan?" That must be amongst the dumbest thing I have ever see Ken utter. Here's a thought Ken - try getting Satanism taught in schools and then see what atheists say. --PsyGremlinPraat! 14:09, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- This is how Ken seems to spend his free time. Engaging in circle jerks on Yahoo! Answers. I guess it's only fitting that he'd spend time there. Unlike Conservapedia, this site full of
- Ken wins another debate! Ole! Ole! Ole!img --Psygremlin (talk) 11:52, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- And all reference to the American Christian who confounded atheists on Yahoo Answers (by getting forty-one of them to laugh at him and tell him that a creationist blog is not a reliable source) has disappeared without trace not only from the Main page but from its talk page too.--Spud (talk) 10:49, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- anyone who has to stoop to trolling Yahoo! Answers has lost the
- Has anyone ever said what pathetic loser Ken is? </rhetorical> PongoOrangutans are sceptical 16:28, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
- Wow, Ken, epic fail there! Darkmind1970 (talk) 14:56, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
- Ken, you are a lying sack of shit. Not one single atheist was "confounded" by your question. Now, why don't you sock up as "TheAtheist" or some other equally unconvincing name and post, "Oh, no atheism is in decline. I must be wrong! Save, me Jeremus!" then sock up again and vote for that as the best answer over and over again? Go on. You know you were going to do that anyway.--Spud (talk) 13:12, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
- So is that going to be DeMyer's Fourth Law or DeMyer's Minus Oneth Law? --جئت ورأيت أنا القرف gross, isn't it? 10:51, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
- DeMyer's Law: The minute you start making your own evidence to support your arguments, you have lost the argument. --K. (talk) 10:27, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
Swimming: an obscure event.
Awesome spin from Andy. Theory of Practice "Trampoline" is an Olympic sport now? 23:38, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- What atheists don't understand is that the fact that Phelps is an atheist communist liberal[*] implies that any event he wins is by definition obscure. (Presumably it was a different M.Phelps who attracted an audience of 10 million or thereabouts in the UK alone to see him win his last-ever swimming race.) [*] i.e. a fact in what passes for Schlafly's mind. The Real James Brown (talk) 23:46, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- Since the USA won the majority of their medals in the pool, is Andy saying the USA is shit at real sports? --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 00:06, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Holy crap, Andy has just cemented my wife's undying hatred - my adopted stepson did a lot of swimming, and the sheer amount of effort and training he put into it was astounding according to her. Darkmind1970 (talk) 00:10, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Since the USA won the majority of their medals in the pool, is Andy saying the USA is shit at real sports? --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 00:06, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- I'd be really curious to know what sports Idiot doesn't consider "obscure". I know, anything that a "Conservative Sports Star" wins, but it would be great to get an idea before the outcomes are determined. Hiphopopotamus (talk) 00:33, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Evidently, the 100m final is the greatest sporting event of the decade. I really don't follow the Olympics. Is there any reason at all that this particular footrace is a greater event than, oh, let's say the 2009 Pittsburgh Penguins winning the Stanley Cup (which was totally freakin' awesome)? Phiwum (talk) 00:43, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- I see now that it's merely the greatest Olympic event of the decade. Phiwum (talk) 00:44, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- It's WAY more impressive than an American winning the most medals of any Olympian ever, because liberals. I know I'm not alone in having the Olympics bring about at bit of jingoism in me, but while I root for Americans, I don't root against athletes from any other country. They've all worked hard and to see that work pay off and a lifelong dream realized is what makes the Olympics so special and exciting. If an American wins gold, I'm happy for them and for the country. If a Chinese athlete wins gold, good for them and their country. If a Brit wins, good for them and their countries. I just cannot possibly fathom how this fuckstick can reconcile actively rooting against Americans because they don't share his increasingly narrow ideology. He's such a fucking asshole. Hiphopopotamus (talk) 01:24, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Meh. If Karajou were competing in some Olympic shooting competition I'd actively root against him, even though he's technically my countryman. I don't root for Americans more than anyone else anyway, in fact, I generally prefer they don't win. I know as an atheist I'm not supposed to support the underdog, but I do anyway, which means rooting for non-Americans, in general. Not that I actually give a shit about the Olympics one way or the other. I can't blame Andy for not supporting an athlete simply because they happened to be from the same country he's from, though as someone who's allegedly ultra-patriotic (something I certainly am not) it does seem like he really should be. DickTurpis (talk) 01:48, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- It's WAY more impressive than an American winning the most medals of any Olympian ever, because liberals. I know I'm not alone in having the Olympics bring about at bit of jingoism in me, but while I root for Americans, I don't root against athletes from any other country. They've all worked hard and to see that work pay off and a lifelong dream realized is what makes the Olympics so special and exciting. If an American wins gold, I'm happy for them and for the country. If a Chinese athlete wins gold, good for them and their country. If a Brit wins, good for them and their countries. I just cannot possibly fathom how this fuckstick can reconcile actively rooting against Americans because they don't share his increasingly narrow ideology. He's such a fucking asshole. Hiphopopotamus (talk) 01:24, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- I see now that it's merely the greatest Olympic event of the decade. Phiwum (talk) 00:44, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Evidently, the 100m final is the greatest sporting event of the decade. I really don't follow the Olympics. Is there any reason at all that this particular footrace is a greater event than, oh, let's say the 2009 Pittsburgh Penguins winning the Stanley Cup (which was totally freakin' awesome)? Phiwum (talk) 00:43, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
Well swimming is clearly a trivial sport, I mean it was only added to the Olympic calendar in 1896. And while it pains me (as an Australian) to acknowledge an American swimmer (for those unaware, swimming is a HUGE deal here, the national championships is on prime-time TV, swimmers do cereal commercials, the whole shebang), there's no denying the fact that Phelps is simply the greatest swimmer of all time, and arguably the greatest Olympian of all time. VOXHUMANA
- Of course, but if Andy doesn't want to root for him because he's a potsmoker then he doesn't have to. It might seem odd for someone as allegedly super-patriotic as Andy rooting against an American, but that's his choice. Dismissing Phelps' wins as an obscure sport is ridiculous, we all know. That said, as has been pointed out elsewhere, swimming does offer many more opportunities for medals than most sports, there being over 20 competitions to compete in. A tennis player, for example, can get what, two? Singles and doubles? Not sure, but it's a hell of a lot less than a swimmer, so comparing these sports isn't entirely fair. DickTurpis (talk) 02:14, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- (EC)I certainly don't fall into the "'Merica, Fuck Yeah!" category and I don't mind people criticizing the shit out of it, because fuck all, there's a shit-ton to criticize, I still do like America and I like the Olympics a lot too. So they bring my national pride to the surface more that just about anything else. You don't care about the Olympics? Cool, I get that. But Idiot is trying to pretend he's all about sports these days, and he's such an out of control nationalist that this active rooting against Americans makes me hate him even more. No, he doesn't NEED to root for Phelps. I could choose not to root for Gabby Douglas because she "gives glory to God" and I don't, but I would never do that. She's a sweet kid, with a great story, who realized her ultimate dream and brought about quite a bit of national pride for America. I'm proud of her and happy for her. Idiot's just a fucking asshole. Hiphopopotamus (talk) 02:36, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Totally irrelevant aside - if you ever visit Australia, it is worth knowing that over here the phrase "to root" means "to engage in sexual intercourse with". This had lead to some very amusing exchanges with young Americans girls who choose to innocently expound on how much they root for the Dallas Cowboys (as an example). VOXHUMANA 02:41, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Ha! Now that you mention it I remember having that conversation with an Australian a few years ago about this exact cultural difference. Hiphopopotamus (talk) 02:51, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Totally irrelevant aside - if you ever visit Australia, it is worth knowing that over here the phrase "to root" means "to engage in sexual intercourse with". This had lead to some very amusing exchanges with young Americans girls who choose to innocently expound on how much they root for the Dallas Cowboys (as an example). VOXHUMANA 02:41, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Re winning medals, you're correct as compared to tennis, but IMO not so much as compared to Athletics. There are more track and field events than swimming events, so an amazing athlete could win the 100, 200, 400 individual, the 100 and 400 relays, plus the hurdles, long jump and a few others for a similar massive medal haul. (Carl Lewis did come close to this sort of achievement). The fact that Phelps is so dominant at some many different distances and strokes (in an era of such specialization to boot) is what makes him legendary. VOXHUMANA 02:23, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Right. While I think it's pretty cool that an American did it (because I am too) I would still feel really lucky to have witnessed such an historic career if he was an Australian or an Israeli or a Soviet (I forget, do they still exist?) The point is, we saw an individual win 22 medals including 18 Gold medals. That's awesome and Andy's an asshole for trying to diminish that. Hiphopopotamus (talk) 02:48, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Re winning medals, you're correct as compared to tennis, but IMO not so much as compared to Athletics. There are more track and field events than swimming events, so an amazing athlete could win the 100, 200, 400 individual, the 100 and 400 relays, plus the hurdles, long jump and a few others for a similar massive medal haul. (Carl Lewis did come close to this sort of achievement). The fact that Phelps is so dominant at some many different distances and strokes (in an era of such specialization to boot) is what makes him legendary. VOXHUMANA 02:23, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
Phellps' sport is obscure but Missy Whatshername's isn't. Great Doublethink Andy. Sphincter (talk) 03:25, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Obscure=Elitist, I guess. Unless you're a Protestant attending a Catholic school, maybe. "Phelps is not 'the undisputed greatest Olympian in history.' Phelps competed in an upper-middle class sport inaccessible to most Americans, let alone most of the world. The swimming events (and medals) are repetitious to the point of being absurd."img Says the man whose family money allowed him to attend two prestigious universities. But I guess Andy believes a "Communist gymnast" is more impressive. A question though, which successful Olympic athletes haven't been part of an elite training program? Idiot. Hiphopopotamus (talk) 03:52, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- I guess you could make the argument that, outside of the olympics, swimming is fairly obscure for the majority of people. But that'd apply to basically every olympic event other than football and tennis. X Stickman (talk) 04:01, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Basketball is pretty big globally now as well, there are professional leagues in Europe and Asia (it's the second biggest sport in Turkey after football). Bafflingly, baseball was dropped because only 4 countries play it seriously, yet handball was kept (despite only being played in Scandinavia AFAIK). And Rugby is being reintroduced in 2016. (None of the preceding contradicts your point in any way, obviously). VOXHUMANA 04:14, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- As much as I'm a Baseball fan and slightly pissed about the IOC decission, that handball is only played in Scandinavia is just not true. If you take at a look just at the teams this year you see countries from all around the world, like Tunisia, Angola, Brazil, Argentina and South Korea. And that's just the ones that qualified. True it's most popular in Scandinavia and Germany (2nd after football), but France is the current world champion and Spain's club have on occassions beaten up on the rest of Europe. It is an international sport, just dominated by teams from Europe, but take away Brazil and Argentina from soccer and it would the exact same thing. --K. (talk) 07:21, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Basketball is pretty big globally now as well, there are professional leagues in Europe and Asia (it's the second biggest sport in Turkey after football). Bafflingly, baseball was dropped because only 4 countries play it seriously, yet handball was kept (despite only being played in Scandinavia AFAIK). And Rugby is being reintroduced in 2016. (None of the preceding contradicts your point in any way, obviously). VOXHUMANA 04:14, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
What the what?img Exactly whom (or is it who?) would be able to beat Phelps? Sure Phelps wouldn't be able to beat Kevin Durant is a game of hoops, but I doubt KD could beat Phelps in the Butterfly. Idiot. Hiphopopotamus (talk) 04:26, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- So swimming is the sport of the upper middle class. Does that mean Andy favours sports that the common man can play, like socialistic soccer? --Psygremlin (talk) 10:41, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- First I've heard of swimming being "upper middle class". (1) In the UK swimming is, if anything, a working class sport because it's relatively cheap (most swimming pools are owned or managed by local councils and offer generous season tickets to regular users). (2) Phelps's dad was a state trooper and his mother a middle school headteacher. I didn't know that policemen and teachers counted as upper-middle class is the US of A. (3) Can I say "Idiot!" again? The Real James Brown (talk) 11:37, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Depends on what income levels you use to define "upper middle class". I can tell you Phelps is from the Baltimore suburb of Towson and, while it's not exactly Beverly Hills, would be considered a pretty comfortable place to live. MDB (the MD is for Maryland, the B is for Bear) 12:09, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- First I've heard of swimming being "upper middle class". (1) In the UK swimming is, if anything, a working class sport because it's relatively cheap (most swimming pools are owned or managed by local councils and offer generous season tickets to regular users). (2) Phelps's dad was a state trooper and his mother a middle school headteacher. I didn't know that policemen and teachers counted as upper-middle class is the US of A. (3) Can I say "Idiot!" again? The Real James Brown (talk) 11:37, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- The Best Of The Public, that's who. Remember, in Andyland anyone can participate in the Olympics. Vulpius (talk) 12:57, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
This is what happens when you try to pass off a blog as an encyclopedia. If Andy just admitted that his "thing on the internet" was a blog, he could say, "I don't like Michael Phelps. I think he's an atheist" and that would obviously just be his opinion. Having labeled his shite site as an encyclopedia, he's forced to make increasingly ludicrous claims that explain why his opinion is the truth and then has to keep jumping through hoops to defend those claims. And can I just say, Who's underachieving now? In your fucking face, Schlafly!--Spud (talk) 12:30, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- I may not have been paying attention but I learn from TOW that his full name is Michael FRED Phelps. Why is the lamestream media not mentioning this?
ГенгисOur ignorance is God; what we know is science.
12:39, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah... can you put those goalposts over there? Fine. rpeh •T•C•E• 20:47, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- If the media were fawning over a non-Catholic-school-going female, it would be considered feminism/Title IX/other things considered bad by Andy standards. But because Ms. Franklin is a Catholic-school-going female, she is underrepresented. Aboriginal Noise What the ... 13:24, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah... can you put those goalposts over there? Fine. rpeh •T•C•E• 20:47, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
Another twist
Not content with allowing two Gold medal winning teenage girls to be recognized for their accomplishment, Andy makes sure the small number of people who pay attention to him know that public schoolers Kyla Ross and Jordyn Wieber won because of homeschooling.img Idiot. Hiphopopotamus (talk) 00:20, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- I don't often headdesk when reading Andy's work, but when I saw that I got a terrible knot on my forehead. Aboriginal Noise What the ... 11:03, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Andy's also been pretty quiet about Aly Raisman, who has 2 individual golds and a bronze to her name. Could it be because she attends a public school. Or because she's Jewish? --PsyGremlinHable! 11:11, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Romney vs Obama
An unbiased opinion from Terrence Chuckarse. "This cute fluffy kitten would have died without Mitt Romney" vs "Obama only eats aborted fetuses". What's really scary is that Flingbooty probably believes this is a genuine comparison. rpeh •T•C•E• 19:35, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- It's Roseann Salantiri, not Terry. MDB (the MD is for Maryland, the B is for Bear) 19:40, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Boy, that's a slimy photo. Vulpius (talk) 20:24, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Fuck. The number of times I've complained when somebody credits Terrence when it's really Unsanitary, Skin Disease or someone else... and I've done it myself. As a penance I will read the next ten of Ken's QE blog posts in full without head-desking. Wish me luck. rpeh •T•C•E• 20:27, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Boy, that's a slimy photo. Vulpius (talk) 20:24, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
One thing I've noticed that bothers me even more than Salantiri's weird generalized comparison (Romney will give out twenty dollar bills and h***j**s, while Obama will have intercourse with your wives!), is how much of her and the right's criticism is because of who he was born to. Father was a Kenyan? Can't be president. Parents weren't married? You're not off proper enough birth. Dad wasn't a millionaire governor? What could you know about being a leader in the government. I swear, these people would be happy to go back to the days of hereditary rule like all of you cod-eating Brits (disclaimer: I don't know if Brits eat cod, nor if it is offensive to say that they do. I don't know much about insulting the British, but please know, stereotyping and offense were intended) Where was I? Oh yeah. Terry and company should read the Declaration of Independence, particularly the part about how it doesn't matter who your sodding father was. </rant> Carlaugust (talk) 21:08, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Cod and chips? Luvverly. BTW, what's Rob Smith up to? London Grump (talk) 21:16, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Father is Kenyan? Can't be President. Father is Mexican? That's okay. -- Seth Peck (talk) 21:42, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, a lot of Brits eat cod. I think a lot of people in other places eat cod too. Anyway, the Queen doesn't rule, she reigns. Remember the British experimented with republicanism already (long before the US Founding Fathers existed) and didn't like it. They put a King back on the throne, but everybody (especially the monarch) understands that what was done once can be done again, albeit this time there probably wouldn't be a public beheading. So there's no more chance of Liz ordering people about than of Obama disregarding the election results and declaring himself President in Perpetuity. The Crown Powers are not available to Liz and are instead exercised by the government and its agencies on her behalf (e.g. crown power of pardon is used by the Home Office to fix injustices, not like a US Presidential pardon which is used to get your crooked friends and business partners out of jail) 82.69.171.94 (talk) 22:20, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- (EC) Some of my favourites:
- "Obama was conceived out of wedlock." Just for-fucks-sake/headdesk-moment.
- "Romney grew up in America and was taught about our heritage and history. " / "Obama grew up in Indonesia." Millions of students of American studies would facepalm.
- "Obama’s early education taught him there are 57 Arab states." Kill him! He knows about other countries!
- That one is either a joke, based on a tired Obama misspeaking during the 2008 campaign, or a real paranoid belief that it revealed his true colors (except there aren't 57 Islamic states. Whoover (talk) 03:12, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- She really say there are "57 Arab states"? Sounds like someone is mixing Arab and Islamic again.--BMcP - Just an astronomy guy 12:55, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- That one is either a joke, based on a tired Obama misspeaking during the 2008 campaign, or a real paranoid belief that it revealed his true colors (except there aren't 57 Islamic states. Whoover (talk) 03:12, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- "Obama was an unsuccessful Community Organizer." Dude got elected President, dude pretty good at organizing folks. --K. (talk) 22:24, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Father is Kenyan? Can't be President. Father is Mexican? That's okay. -- Seth Peck (talk) 21:42, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
And just in case...
...you weren't already under the impression that the Poison Dwarf is more insane than Launchbooty - Obamacare discriminates against Christians in favour of Muslims. --PsyGremlinSnakk! 16:26, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Someone who isn't banned, go over there and mention the office of faith based initiatives. Just for shits and giggles.--ThunderstruckA Bastard Poster, For Bastard People 17:09, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Medal predictions
Next Sunday evening, Schlafly will undoubtedly claim that <number of medals won by GB> will equals underperformance because it will be enormously lower than <number pulled out of his arse>. No matter that it will almost certainly be their best overall performance since 1908(?) Same applies for the atheist communist liberal evolutionists in Canada, France, Germany, Spain, Somewherelse, Anotherplace, Etcetcetc. For the record, here's a table of the best available prediction of how many medals each country is likely to win, based on a statistical model including population, GDP, historic record and being the host country: here's an explanation from Auntie and the table itself. So far, top over-performers look like GB and S.Korea and bottom under-performers among the leading countries may be Germany (not the Aussie bastards - surprisingly?). Happy to do some statistical stuff on the final medals table if it won't bore everyone to death. The Real James Brown (talk) 22:34, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Do any of these "USA RAH! RAH! RAH! types" (and i get shcafly is only that way for the RIGHT USA atheletes) get the fact that China and the US have the largest GNP, and general population that isn't in abject poverty, to build these atheltes from? So when UK with what, 1/5th the population of the US (?) is 4th in the medal count, that basically is better than the US. just saying.... or rather "rah rah rah, go usa".
GodotL'important c'est d'aimer 22:54, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- 1/4.99th if you want to be pedantic, for 2010 estimates, according to WolframAlpha CS Miller (talk) 09:17, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Remember to disregard the swimming medals, because they are redundant. Aboriginal Noise What the ... 23:16, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- My one achievement on CP before I got banned was to add the poorly conceived "Expected Medals" table to the 2012 Olympics, so when the UK smashes through the GDP-expected 32.4 medals, Andy will have to explain why they did so much better, along with why the US fell short of their expected 209 medals. Carlaugust (talk) 23:50, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- Since we all know Andy is going to say Conservapedia is proven right no matter how many medals Britain wins I was hoping someone would try to pin him down on what exactly they would have to win in order not to embarrass themselves, but I guess it's too late now. Considering what he said about Canada in 2010 it's pretty clear Britain cold win the gold in every single event and they'd still be dismissed for winning too many joke sports. DickTurpis (talk) 01:48, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- He's been asked but went on about small town US beating big cities. Bevo74 (talk) 07:58, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Now he's been reduced to claiming conservative (small-town) New Zealand is humiliating left-leaning Australia.
Генгисmarauding
08:20, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Oh man, that is fucking gold. NZ is conservative? Brilliant. AceThe Rep Grows Bigger 20:33, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- New Zealand is conservative? With its socialised medicine? I can hear two things right now... Ace laughing and Rob's head exploding.
- Also, I think I love CPalmer.img Intentionally or not, he's just told Andypants that by him writing off swimming, the US would be behind atheistic Britain in the medals table, if you ignore the swimming medals. Beautiful! --Psygremlin (talk) 11:11, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Andy is now focusing on Australia because the distance he would now have to move the goal posts for Britain being an "underachiever" in the Olympics would force him to place them well outside the stadium. He still needs his "atheistic boogeyman" of the Olympics and given China and several European nations are doing so well, he needed to look pretty far down the list. Have no fear though; through propagandist twisting of the facts and a liberal dose of censorship with a dash of burning the evidence, he will make it so CP will appear right all along. --BMcP - Just an astronomy guy 12:36, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Now he's been reduced to claiming conservative (small-town) New Zealand is humiliating left-leaning Australia.
- He's been asked but went on about small town US beating big cities. Bevo74 (talk) 07:58, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Since we all know Andy is going to say Conservapedia is proven right no matter how many medals Britain wins I was hoping someone would try to pin him down on what exactly they would have to win in order not to embarrass themselves, but I guess it's too late now. Considering what he said about Canada in 2010 it's pretty clear Britain cold win the gold in every single event and they'd still be dismissed for winning too many joke sports. DickTurpis (talk) 01:48, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- My one achievement on CP before I got banned was to add the poorly conceived "Expected Medals" table to the 2012 Olympics, so when the UK smashes through the GDP-expected 32.4 medals, Andy will have to explain why they did so much better, along with why the US fell short of their expected 209 medals. Carlaugust (talk) 23:50, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
Karajerk
Are you fucking kidding me?img This fucking asshole is going to use crosshairs and a cross to claim some sort of imagined persecution of Christianity? One fucking day after someone ACTUALLY opened fire in a Sikh Temple? Someone needs to punch him in the face. Hard. I'm fucking seething. Hiphopopotamus (talk) 03:52, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- If I understand Karajou's "ten commandments" argument correctly, it is... because Christians are not permitted to purchase (using taxpayer funds) Christian monuments and erect them (on state land), in a manner (prominent display) and location (outside a court of law) which heavily suggests that the rule of law is a secondary consideration to ten Biblical commandments, the first of which ("You shall have no God before me") is a direct contradiction of the separation of church and state, because of this, Christians are persecuted. Persecuted so badly that they put crosshairs over the cross, like they were about to be shot. Because everything's not All God, Our God, All The Time, that's persecution akin to being murdered. Coming from the section of the population that is the overwhelming majority of the population, and also massively represented in the senate and congress. Did I get that wrong? --Sasayaki (talk) 04:23, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Alternatively, that as an atheist I should be EQUALLY outraged that I cannot have a giant sign "THERE IS NO GOD/ALLAH/YAHWEH" outside of court rooms in the US? Or NASA offices? --Sasayaki (talk) 04:27, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- You covered it well, but you forgot to mention he's a fucking asshole. Hiphopopotamus (talk) 04:34, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- That's pretty evident, so it should be taken as a given. I also heard an unsubstantiated rumour that he felches dogs on his free time. Ochotonaprincepsnot a pokémon 1013 points 08:03, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- What pisses me off is that there are places in the world where Christians genuinely are persecuted. Claiming American Christians are persecuted cheapens the suffering of people who really have reason to live in fear because of their faith. MDB (the MD is for Maryland, the B is for Bear) 11:56, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- I agree, if there's one place where Christians are not persecuted then it's the USA. If they think they're being persecuted then they should try going undercover and masquerading as atheists.
ГенгисOur ignorance is God; what we know is science.
15:30, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- My response to American Christians who claim persecution is, "I invite you to visit a synagogue and explain to the members the horrors of Christian persecution in America today. It should be especially instructional to explain that to a member over eighty years of age who was born in Europe." MDB (the MD is for Maryland, the B is for Bear) 16:06, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- I agree, if there's one place where Christians are not persecuted then it's the USA. If they think they're being persecuted then they should try going undercover and masquerading as atheists.
- What pisses me off is that there are places in the world where Christians genuinely are persecuted. Claiming American Christians are persecuted cheapens the suffering of people who really have reason to live in fear because of their faith. MDB (the MD is for Maryland, the B is for Bear) 11:56, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- That's pretty evident, so it should be taken as a given. I also heard an unsubstantiated rumour that he felches dogs on his free time. Ochotonaprincepsnot a pokémon 1013 points 08:03, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- You covered it well, but you forgot to mention he's a fucking asshole. Hiphopopotamus (talk) 04:34, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
It must be rough when a scant 88% of all congressmen are of your religion. How could you possibly expect fair treatment? I once heard a statistic (don't quote me) that the US Congress is more Christian than China is Chinese. Poor, poor Christians... Carlaugust (talk) 17:32, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Now we know Andy's problem
"People Without Facebook Accounts Are 'Suspicious'." --Psygremlin (talk) 10:07, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Actually, I would not be surprised to learn Andy has a Facebook account, just with privacy settings set very strict so only people he approves can see him. It would be okay for him to have one, just not anyone else. Kind of like how girls can't excel in math and science, when he has a daughter who is an engineering major and is married to an MD. MDB (the MD is for Maryland, the B is for Bear) 11:42, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- I have one, but I don't use it much at all, mostly as re-posting of whatever my Twitter feed sends it really. Friends don't say much of significance on it most of the time, and I don't care to post any of the mundane and routine events of my life personally, (oh yay, I cleaned the house again!). I avoid all the games because of their addictive nature, (I'm terrible when it comes to addictive games); not to mention I loath their willingness to give out your information and their less than stellar privacy features, but that is just me.--BMcP - Just an astronomy guy 12:07, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Erm, what? I've never had a Facebook account. Everything I've seen about it makes it look like a massive, online version of 'reality TV shows' like Big Brother, which I find pointless and boring. So, I'm 'suspicious' because I have taste? 86.147.107.92 (talk) 18:58, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Clearly, if you have not drunk the fuck-privacy-broadcast-my-every-move-to-the-Internet kool-aid, you are suspect. You are not freely telling anyone who'll listen what you had for lunch (or dinner, or breakfast, or a snack), so you must have something to hide. Ochotonaprincepsnot a pokémon 1013 points 22:49, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Erm, what? I've never had a Facebook account. Everything I've seen about it makes it look like a massive, online version of 'reality TV shows' like Big Brother, which I find pointless and boring. So, I'm 'suspicious' because I have taste? 86.147.107.92 (talk) 18:58, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- I have one, but I don't use it much at all, mostly as re-posting of whatever my Twitter feed sends it really. Friends don't say much of significance on it most of the time, and I don't care to post any of the mundane and routine events of my life personally, (oh yay, I cleaned the house again!). I avoid all the games because of their addictive nature, (I'm terrible when it comes to addictive games); not to mention I loath their willingness to give out your information and their less than stellar privacy features, but that is just me.--BMcP - Just an astronomy guy 12:07, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Pregnancy as a sport?
This has just occurred to me, but on that masterwork that is the Olympics article, "8-month pregnant athlete" is in the "sport" column. In fact, please double-check this for me, but at no point anywhere does it mention what sport Taibi actually did.
moral 11:51, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Well having crotch droppings is a GOOD AND GODLY SORT OF THING FOR A WOMAN TO DO so obviously that's the highlight of her existence. Don't want those female homeschoolers (are any left?!) to get the idea that they can play sports without being a Good Christian Mother eventually! Conservapedia's lack of tact aside, she is Malaysian and seriously: good for her participating in the shooting competition. The whole you-can't-do-anything-while-pregnant myth effects women even if they don't plan to have kids, considering how many women are put on mommy tracks for their career once they get married regardless if they wish to breed or not. ±
KnightOfTL;DRlongissimus non legeri 12:01, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Well, there's handling teratogens...
moral 12:43, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Well, there's handling teratogens...
Conservapedia proven wrong yet again
As soon as the dressage finishes, Britain will have their best haul of golds for a century. Someone should go add this to Conservapedia proven wrong, just so we can see Andy's spin for getting out of his bullshit. --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 15:46, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Joke/elitist sports, they didn't win every event, God showing his sense of humor... Vulpius (talk) 16:07, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Given how the atheistic GB are gobbling up golds at the moment - just won another, Andy is either going to write their medals off as being in obscure, elitist, joke sports like rowing, cycling, show jumping, etc, or he's just going to walk away from the whole thing and ignore it. Karajou is there to prevent any reality entering the article. --PsyGremlin말하십시오 16:32, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- I wonder if he'll call dressage an elitist sport. Doesn't Romney's wife have a horse in that event, or something? Dressage is a pretty elitist sport though. It's also boring as hell. X Stickman (talk) 17:49, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- The horseys do tend to be the only event where an appreciable number of the competitors are royalty. --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 17:52, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Dressage is much, much less boring if you are an equestrian and can distinguish what exactly the horses are doing vs the cues the riders are giving; then it turns into "How the hell are you making that half-ton beast dance around without any visible cues at all; are you telekinetic?!" But I concur: sports that you don't have any knowledge of or insight into are often not as interesting as the sports you do know about. I myself can't stand watching football and baseball; it all looks the same to me. But I won't deny that dressage, at least at THAT level is incredibly elitist. At that level, you get judged on appearance almost as much as horsemanship... which means you need to have that $12,000 saddle to look sharp. I have done dressage training on the 'I am riding a retired horse on the farm, watch me go around and around this ring on this animal that barely tolerates me' level and it's much less elitist: requiring only access to the horse itself, which is done by plenty of middle class families who live near a barn (they rent time). You don't even need equipment to learn how save a 30 buck helmet and good shoes... but that's the definite unglamorous side of flat riding and not the kind that is represented in competition or has a place in the larger culture. Not to mention Olympic dressage horses are ridiculously gorgeous. They make the hoofed lumps I rode on the farm look like walking meatloafs.±
KnightOfTL;DRmore at 11 17:58, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Rafalca Romney failed to place, and Mittens didn't even attend the event. -- Seth Peck (talk) 18:17, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Owning a good horse is an expensive business but having access to the country can often get you into the system if you're prepared to muck out a bit. If you show talent and desire you can still make progress. Even the GB Olympic dressage riders don't all ride their own horses - just like horseracing jockeys, ocean-racing sailors and F1 drivers who are dependent on a rich owner or sponsor. I wonder what conservative, Christian, all-American sports Andy would endorse - Bible thumping, flag waving, marathon praying, blind-eye turning, tax avoiding, synchronised Tebowing and the women-only cookie baking?
Генгисmarauding
18:43, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Billiards—practiced in blue-collar sports bars and taverns across the country. Or, to paraphrase Chris Rock, that white ball pushing around all the colored balls. -- Seth Peck (talk) 18:57, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Re: Romney not at the olympics and dressage - didn't you hear? He was banned from attending the olympics after they found out he tied his horse to the top of the jet to fly out to London. --Shagie (talk) 03:48, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Owning a good horse is an expensive business but having access to the country can often get you into the system if you're prepared to muck out a bit. If you show talent and desire you can still make progress. Even the GB Olympic dressage riders don't all ride their own horses - just like horseracing jockeys, ocean-racing sailors and F1 drivers who are dependent on a rich owner or sponsor. I wonder what conservative, Christian, all-American sports Andy would endorse - Bible thumping, flag waving, marathon praying, blind-eye turning, tax avoiding, synchronised Tebowing and the women-only cookie baking?
- Rafalca Romney failed to place, and Mittens didn't even attend the event. -- Seth Peck (talk) 18:17, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- I wonder if he'll call dressage an elitist sport. Doesn't Romney's wife have a horse in that event, or something? Dressage is a pretty elitist sport though. It's also boring as hell. X Stickman (talk) 17:49, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Given how the atheistic GB are gobbling up golds at the moment - just won another, Andy is either going to write their medals off as being in obscure, elitist, joke sports like rowing, cycling, show jumping, etc, or he's just going to walk away from the whole thing and ignore it. Karajou is there to prevent any reality entering the article. --PsyGremlin말하십시오 16:32, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
This came up in my Google search when researching Rafalca. -- Seth Peck (talk) 18:20, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- This is doubly baffling because it is impossible to go ten blocks in some areas of Boston without encountering a Dunkin' Donuts, which originated in this state. I know he didn't have to fraternize with the plebs from his mansion in Belmont, but still. He was governor of the place for a while. You kind of have to notice.±
KnightOfTL;DRgoing galt: the literal crazy train 18:36, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- In the middle stage of my father's terminal dementia, he forgot ordinary words like "shoes." He kept enough of his social skills and surrounding vocabulary that it wasn't glaringly obvious until a few years later. Just saying... Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 19:10, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Have you noticed that the horses the British team are riding all sound like second rate metal band names? "Opposition Buzz" "High Kingdom" "Miners Frolic" "Hello Sanctos" "Vindicat" "Big Star" and the especially egregious "Tripple X" (sic.) If I were one of them, I'd rather be sent to the glue factory than be seen prancing around a ring with names like those. --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 00:05, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- If I ever own a horse (especially a thoroughbred with Triple Crown potential) I fully intend to name him "Me Pet Orse Eric." MDB (the MD is for Maryland, the B is for Bear) 11:28, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Hell freezes over
Andy: "Britain has done remarkably well in the past week, and some of its gold medals (e.g., Andy Murray in tennis) were nothing short of spectacular. Conservatives accept the real facts, even when (in this case) it is contrary to American bravado."img
I'm speechless.... --Night Jaguar (talk) 02:08, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Where is Andy and what have you done to him? Vulpius (talk) 02:57, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Maybe he's trying the opposite? --Night Jaguar (talk) 03:51, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- It weirds me out how he adds on that thing at the end to a lot of things he says. "Conservatives accept the real facts..." here, other places it's "conservatives keep an open mind..." and so on. It's almost like a mantra that he's repeating to himself, trying to hardcode in these new facts he's being forced to admit. What kind of person has to bring in their entire political identity when forced to admit a mistake? What kind of person does that in any situation? I've never, for example, ordered a coffee and added "Atheists take sugar as they please, in this case one sugar" at the end, because that is what a crazy person does.
- Re-reading what I just wrote, I'm having a hard time conveying my exact thoughts on this. This particular habit of his triggers a flashing "That's really weird" light in my head and I can't quite write out why. X Stickman (talk) 03:53, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- I understand what you're trying to say. I think he's tried to work out his mental gymnastics, but when Gabby Douglas began to falter he lost all hope and just gave up. This is his way of saying, "I can't spin this, no matter how hard I've tried. So while I do it with a great deal of underlying anger, I'll just accept it and claim that as a conservative trait. Excuse me while I go punch my dog in her uterus." Hiphopopotamus (talk) 04:49, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Basically Andy has just cut his losses. Rather than get involved in humiliating exchanges he has eliminated that line of attack and anyone who mentions "GB underperformance" will be banninated as a troublemaker by Karajerk. Of course, just like when the arguments of creationists get totally pwned they will ignore that one and carry on regardless, so Andy will still make political capital against liberals and public schoolers. Lily Inspirate me. 07:07, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Amazingly though, Andy just can't admit that he made a mistake. It's not that he was wrong, it's that "Conservatives accept the real facts"... which will probably become a Conservapedia insight in 3... 2... Of course, will the article be updated accordingly? --PsyGremlinPraat! 08:44, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- If "conservatives accept the real facts" that should mean that Andy should never have a problem admitting to being wrong ever again. Some how I doubt he'll exhibit that particular conservative trait very often.--Spud (talk) 11:38, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Despite the below addendum, I have clawed back a minute speck of respect for Andy now. And when I say minute, I mean it's smaller and more brief in existence than the Higgs, but that's still better than before. --جئت ورأيت أنا القرف gross, isn't it? 15:49, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- You didn't gain a speck of respect for Andy, this is just one of the rare times where he takes a stand and you don't immediately hate him more. Not hating him more feels similar, but it's an important distinction. Hiphopopotamus (talk) 16:46, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- ...That is a much better description. Now get out of my head before I blow it off. --جئت ورأيت أنا القرف gross, isn't it? 18:59, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- I just love how Andy accepting reality, even if just for a second, is cause for comment. --Night Jaguar (talk) 17:51, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- As a child I took an instant liking to any person or character with the same name as me. I can't help but wonder if that's been a factor in Andy's love for Mr Murray. Grumblejaws (talk) 09:55, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- If "conservatives accept the real facts" that should mean that Andy should never have a problem admitting to being wrong ever again. Some how I doubt he'll exhibit that particular conservative trait very often.--Spud (talk) 11:38, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Amazingly though, Andy just can't admit that he made a mistake. It's not that he was wrong, it's that "Conservatives accept the real facts"... which will probably become a Conservapedia insight in 3... 2... Of course, will the article be updated accordingly? --PsyGremlinPraat! 08:44, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Basically Andy has just cut his losses. Rather than get involved in humiliating exchanges he has eliminated that line of attack and anyone who mentions "GB underperformance" will be banninated as a troublemaker by Karajerk. Of course, just like when the arguments of creationists get totally pwned they will ignore that one and carry on regardless, so Andy will still make political capital against liberals and public schoolers. Lily Inspirate me. 07:07, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- I understand what you're trying to say. I think he's tried to work out his mental gymnastics, but when Gabby Douglas began to falter he lost all hope and just gave up. This is his way of saying, "I can't spin this, no matter how hard I've tried. So while I do it with a great deal of underlying anger, I'll just accept it and claim that as a conservative trait. Excuse me while I go punch my dog in her uterus." Hiphopopotamus (talk) 04:49, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Maybe he's trying the opposite? --Night Jaguar (talk) 03:51, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
No, he's still a jerk
Thanks, Andy. Theory of Practice "Trampoline" is an Olympic sport now? 12:02, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Buying time to find the spin I see. --Revolverman (talk) 12:06, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Because as we all know, clamping down on a neo-Nazi fuckwit has a direct influence on your team's medal performance. Maybe somebody should point out to Andy that she supports a neo-Nazi, like the guy in the recent shooting. --PsyGremlinHable! 12:17, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Assuming that he doesn't really have neo-Nazi tendencies or share the opinions that all Africans shold bugger off out of Greece and all South Koreans are stupid, Andy's sudden switch from bashing atheistic Britain to "politically correct" Switzerland and Greece doesn't make him so much of a jerk, more of a pratt.--Spud (talk) 12:28, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Don't know if PsyGremlin knows the connection, but the neo-Nazi party the Olympian bitch (but damn she's hot =\) was forwarding tweets to, is the same party the Sikh temple shooter was involved with, the Golden Dawn. Please, Andy, don't stop that spinning!
NorsemanCyser Melomel 13:27, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Don't know if PsyGremlin knows the connection, but the neo-Nazi party the Olympian bitch (but damn she's hot =\) was forwarding tweets to, is the same party the Sikh temple shooter was involved with, the Golden Dawn. Please, Andy, don't stop that spinning!
- Assuming that he doesn't really have neo-Nazi tendencies or share the opinions that all Africans shold bugger off out of Greece and all South Koreans are stupid, Andy's sudden switch from bashing atheistic Britain to "politically correct" Switzerland and Greece doesn't make him so much of a jerk, more of a pratt.--Spud (talk) 12:28, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Because as we all know, clamping down on a neo-Nazi fuckwit has a direct influence on your team's medal performance. Maybe somebody should point out to Andy that she supports a neo-Nazi, like the guy in the recent shooting. --PsyGremlinHable! 12:17, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
The arse carefully omits the Great from Great Britain, the wee shite. Sphincter (talk) 14:31, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Conservapedia means I can no longer watch the Olympics...
Not because of that batshit crazy article, but because the high jump is on and the commentators keep saying "two meters". Grumble-grumble-grumble...
sshole 19:41, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Two irony meters?
Генгисunbelieving
20:07, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- I keep thinking "is this athlete overrated?" and "is this an obscure sport?" Time for Forum:Conservapedia ruined my life, I think. SophieWilder 20:20, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- I'm just surprised Andy hasn't found some way of blaming Barack (Hussein) Obama for some failure, perceived or actual, of the Olympics or the US team. Is he (Andy) losing his touch or has the failure of Britain to fail as required finally shut him up? The Real James Brown (talk) 21:32, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- I keep thinking "is this athlete overrated?" and "is this an obscure sport?" Time for Forum:Conservapedia ruined my life, I think. SophieWilder 20:20, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Peyton Manning
Just noticed that while Peyton Manning is officially an Overrated Sports Star©, he's also officially an American Hero. Too much to ask for consistency, I suppose... The Real James Brown (talk) 22:45, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- He replaced Tebow, so of course he's overrated. Plus, he came from that ultraliberal, RINO state of Indiana. -- Seth Peck (talk) 22:55, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Manning is actually from Louisianna and went to college inTennessee. Pi 3:14 (talk) 23:28, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
- Wow, I hadn't seen that in a long time.... When did the parodists take control of that? Muhammad Ali is an American Hero? I mean, I agree 100%, but since when has anything Ali done ever fit in with the CP definition of Hero? SirChuckBFurther bulletins as events warrant 08:08, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- He's widely regarded as one of the best boxers (a macho sport) in history, therefore he's conservative. His career is too set in stone to try and spin it as "underachievement" or anything like that, so they'll just have to ignore his conversion to islam and refusal to fight in vietnam. X Stickman (talk) 21:10, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Hey, refusing to fight in Vietnam is totally a conservative value. — Unsigned, by: ORavenhurst / talkDo You Believe That? 13:21, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- He's widely regarded as one of the best boxers (a macho sport) in history, therefore he's conservative. His career is too set in stone to try and spin it as "underachievement" or anything like that, so they'll just have to ignore his conversion to islam and refusal to fight in vietnam. X Stickman (talk) 21:10, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Wow, I hadn't seen that in a long time.... When did the parodists take control of that? Muhammad Ali is an American Hero? I mean, I agree 100%, but since when has anything Ali done ever fit in with the CP definition of Hero? SirChuckBFurther bulletins as events warrant 08:08, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Manning is actually from Louisianna and went to college inTennessee. Pi 3:14 (talk) 23:28, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
One small ray of light
in the darkness following the Sikh shooting, is watching Karajou completely fail to grasp the concept of neo-Nazi:
- Kara: "Inaccurate" to say he was a Nazi, when you call him a "neo-Nazi"? If the jackboot fits... Karajou 23:16, 6 August 2012 (EDT)
- User: There are important differences between a Nazi and a neo-Nazi. If a Nazi were to shoot people this week in Wisconsin, he would probably be an 80 or 90 year old man who had been hiding in Argentina. A neo-Nazi is someone who wasn't a member of the German group during World War II.
- Kara: And you're still trying to make out a difference between the two, as if one is better than the other. This thug murdered innocent people in cold blood, just like his "heroes" in Germany did before and during World War II; this thug read the same material; preached the same philosophy; spouted the same garbage; hated the same non-white people; and stood posing in front of the same flag. There's no difference here, kids, and it's high time that you learn it.
--PsyGremlinSnakk! 12:22, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- I guess he doesn't realize the Nazis were a political party, not Some Evil Bogeymen. People really can't be literal Nazis now because the party doesn't exist anymore; Germany is now absolutely terrified of being associated with what happened in the past. To the point of public buildings being long-renamed all over the country. ±
KnightOfTL;DRgoing galt: the literal crazy train 12:42, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- He just doesn't want to admit he's wrong. Could have just easily said "oh, my mistake. Yeah, fixed." but now he paints himself dumber than a fifth grader.
NorsemanCyser Melomel 13:30, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Now, now, don't be too hard on the poor Swabbie; he probably lost plenty of brain cells breathing fumes from the engines he worked on there in the motor pool, while hearing tales of daring-do from his MP buddies. C®ackeЯ 15:15, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- To be perfectly fair, he undid his unsupportable 90/10 (You pissed me off!) block. Phiwum (talk) 15:21, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- A lot of crazy fundies treat Nazis not like a historical political party but some unrelated Force of Darkness or Evil Organization, not unlike COBRA from G.I. Joe or HYDRA from the Marvel Universe(s). I guess that's what general disdain/ignorance of history and context does: make actual, specific events and individuals seem more mythical and general than they really were. ±
KnightOfTL;DRlongissimus non legeri 15:23, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Pedantic Geekery: Hydra does have ties to the Nazis; they were founded by former Nazi commando Baron Strucker, with support from the Red Skull. And... from memory... "Hail Hydra! Immortal Hydra! We will never be destroyed! Cut off a limb, and two more shall take its place! We serve the master, as the world shall soon serve us!" MDB (the MD is for Maryland, the B is for Bear) 15:44, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Well yes, it was made up in the Golden Age when superheroes were deployed out to fight those durn krauts, except real Nazis didn't have giant tentacle robots and stuff. They sometimes had an unhealthy interest in the occult, though.±
KnightOfTL;DRmore at 11 16:04, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- It gets better, poorly summarized by me:
- User: There's a difference in describing Wade as a Nazi or neo-Nazi
- Karajou: I can't tell the difference
- User: This is the difference between the two
- Karajou: I'll make a strawman and call everyone "kids" instead of understanding the point
- User: You still don't get it (Karajou blocks Esseph for calling him a kid as well, later unblocks without admitting abuse, only hinting at "excessive")
- User: Karajou's strawman is a failure at derailing his misunderstanding
- Karajou: Nuh-uh! Stop turning my strawman back against me! You're trolling!
- It's such a damned minor thing, yet Karajou had to go so far out there and blow it out of proportion. That discussion definitely gets a thumbs up from me.
NorsemanCyser Melomel 17:22, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Karajou is the epitome of a dog in the manger. I don't believe that he has any joy in his life. What a sad fucker.
Генгисunbelieving
20:32, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Karajou is the epitome of a dog in the manger. I don't believe that he has any joy in his life. What a sad fucker.
- It gets better, poorly summarized by me:
- Well yes, it was made up in the Golden Age when superheroes were deployed out to fight those durn krauts, except real Nazis didn't have giant tentacle robots and stuff. They sometimes had an unhealthy interest in the occult, though.±
- Pedantic Geekery: Hydra does have ties to the Nazis; they were founded by former Nazi commando Baron Strucker, with support from the Red Skull. And... from memory... "Hail Hydra! Immortal Hydra! We will never be destroyed! Cut off a limb, and two more shall take its place! We serve the master, as the world shall soon serve us!" MDB (the MD is for Maryland, the B is for Bear) 15:44, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- A lot of crazy fundies treat Nazis not like a historical political party but some unrelated Force of Darkness or Evil Organization, not unlike COBRA from G.I. Joe or HYDRA from the Marvel Universe(s). I guess that's what general disdain/ignorance of history and context does: make actual, specific events and individuals seem more mythical and general than they really were. ±
- To be perfectly fair, he undid his unsupportable 90/10 (You pissed me off!) block. Phiwum (talk) 15:21, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Now, now, don't be too hard on the poor Swabbie; he probably lost plenty of brain cells breathing fumes from the engines he worked on there in the motor pool, while hearing tales of daring-do from his MP buddies. C®ackeЯ 15:15, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- He just doesn't want to admit he's wrong. Could have just easily said "oh, my mistake. Yeah, fixed." but now he paints himself dumber than a fifth grader.
- I guess he doesn't realize the Nazis were a political party, not Some Evil Bogeymen. People really can't be literal Nazis now because the party doesn't exist anymore; Germany is now absolutely terrified of being associated with what happened in the past. To the point of public buildings being long-renamed all over the country. ±
I think Karajou has just gotten so used to calling everyone he has a problem with Nazis (and getting called out for being an idiot) that his default response to "But he's not a Nazi..." is "Yeah huh!", whether it's a Neo-Nazi, or a girlscout who is out of Tag Alongs. Carlaugust (talk) 20:43, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
A giant racist/anti-immigrant blast from User: Conservative.
Classy. Theory of Practice "Trampoline" is an Olympic sport now? 21:57, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- At least the essay in question doesn't list Stephen Hawking among "atheists who have had jumping challenges". Karajou probably couldn't have shown such restraint. Vulpius (talk) 22:04, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, because, you know, no Muslims ever play basketball. -- Seth Peck (talk) 22:14, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Obviously a conservative christian who had to hide behind some other monicker to be accepted in the liberal basketball institution. --Mikal Harass Follow 22:48, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Jesus fuck he did the "their/there" typo. Of all typos, that one bothers me the most. X Stickman (talk) 22:56, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- In which microphone do I have to scream to make it clear to Americans of all ages, religions and political camps that Europe is not getting taken over by Islam? Also Ken Arab!=Muslim and Muslim!=Arab, that annoys me more than any typo possible. --K. (talk) 23:52, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Looks like someone's been reading too much Mark Steyn. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 00:10, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- Usually, it's that microphone over there to the right. To be fair though, our news coverage here loves to tell the most dramatic story possible, and "Muslims are taking over the world" equals ratings, so I can somewhat forgive people for not knowing that. However, I have a harder time forgiving people who have no desire to see other countries. Sure not everyone can afford to do it, but there are far too many Americans without any urge to. But, we're not all xenophobic rubes who think the extent of cultural differences ends with "Urban" and "Real America." Hiphopopotamus (talk) 00:22, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- Europe not being taken over by Muslims? Nonsense! Next you're going to try to say Sweden's social safety net isn't going fall apart any minute, or that Canadians don't die waiting to see doctors! Q0 (talk) 00:56, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- How dare you! Are you trying to tell me that a healthcare bill that helps PRIVATE insurance companies isn't a GOVERNMENT takeover? Well, you're a communist/socialist. Since they're interchangeable and exactly the same thing. Hiphopopotamus (talk) 01:30, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- Europe not being taken over by Muslims? Nonsense! Next you're going to try to say Sweden's social safety net isn't going fall apart any minute, or that Canadians don't die waiting to see doctors! Q0 (talk) 00:56, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- Usually, it's that microphone over there to the right. To be fair though, our news coverage here loves to tell the most dramatic story possible, and "Muslims are taking over the world" equals ratings, so I can somewhat forgive people for not knowing that. However, I have a harder time forgiving people who have no desire to see other countries. Sure not everyone can afford to do it, but there are far too many Americans without any urge to. But, we're not all xenophobic rubes who think the extent of cultural differences ends with "Urban" and "Real America." Hiphopopotamus (talk) 00:22, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- Looks like someone's been reading too much Mark Steyn. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 00:10, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- In which microphone do I have to scream to make it clear to Americans of all ages, religions and political camps that Europe is not getting taken over by Islam? Also Ken Arab!=Muslim and Muslim!=Arab, that annoys me more than any typo possible. --K. (talk) 23:52, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Jesus fuck he did the "their/there" typo. Of all typos, that one bothers me the most. X Stickman (talk) 22:56, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Obviously a conservative christian who had to hide behind some other monicker to be accepted in the liberal basketball institution. --Mikal Harass Follow 22:48, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, because, you know, no Muslims ever play basketball. -- Seth Peck (talk) 22:14, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
The one thing that stood out for me in Ken's latest "atheists are fat" piece of crap was that he talked about "scrawny atheist kids'. Does that mean that he'll now start writing dozens of "essays" about how atheists are too skinny?--Spud (talk) 10:48, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- What I really like is that Conservative is deeply wedded to a form of social Darwinism. How do you know atheists are wrong? They're losing to fast-reproducing Muslims and Christians. And Christians are good at spreading their beliefs, while atheists aren't! Another win for Christians!
- Don't get me wrong. Social Darwinism is not the biological theory of evolution nor really tied to Darwin at all. Nonetheless, Conservative's cute fascination with social Darwinism is funny as all get out. Phiwum (talk) 18:19, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Is Capturebot no longer a thing?
What's up with that? Theory of Practice "Trampoline" is an Olympic sport now? 21:59, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Dave
I know atheism is about to be butt-fucked by a wave of blueberry cow trains or whatever, but Kendoll throwing down the gauntlet to "Dave" is one of his funniest challenges. It just goes to show he truly believes a random blog that barely anyone reads is going to change the world (no offense to Dave). Plus, how does he know that "Dave" isn't a group of people? He/they could be a large collective planning on writing a 50 page booklet sometime between now and never. Hiphopopotamus (talk) 23:12, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- It's not even him offering the challenge, since he's an international man of mystery unable to leave the basement for fear of martyrdom, he's offering to have shockofgoat "debate" by which he means scream about proof and evidence and ignore everything actually said. He's really quite painfully pathetic. --JeevesMkII The gentleman's gentleman at the other site 23:34, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- 2001 makes this creepy. --K. (talk) 23:58, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Obligatory
--PsyGremlinFale! 08:40, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- Blimey! Ken's suddenly lowered his standards (or lowered them on behalf of Shockofgod). Not long ago he was insisting on only debating famous atheists like Richard Dawkins or Penn Jillette and would accept no non-celebrity substitutes. Now he's just challenging some geezer named Dave. What a come down!--Spud (talk) 10:54, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- And even that "debate" will never happen, because Shock isn't actually going to allow any conversation to take place where he can't block his challenger the moment an awkward question gets asked. Why Ken thinks anyone would accept a debate in a forum controlled by one of the participants and his pack of demented, sycophantic lackeys is beyond me.
- Blimey! Ken's suddenly lowered his standards (or lowered them on behalf of Shockofgod). Not long ago he was insisting on only debating famous atheists like Richard Dawkins or Penn Jillette and would accept no non-celebrity substitutes. Now he's just challenging some geezer named Dave. What a come down!--Spud (talk) 10:54, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- 2001 makes this creepy. --K. (talk) 23:58, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
Virgin fundy Christian thrashed by "un-religious" Australian
Will Andy spin this or just ignore it completely...?
- Article 1 - Lolo hits a low after finishing fourth behind Sally Pearson
- Article 2 - Respect from religious rivals proves Pearson is a class act
VOXHUMANA 00:42, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- It's kind of funny actually. Most Australians are like her; either outright "no religion" (28%-ish, according to the census, which includes our current PM), and while we have 61% Christians, only 7% regularly go to church. She's probably in the 54%, nominally Christian but nowhere near serious about it and effectively living secular lives, quietly embarrassed by their fundie cousins. Also, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMgmYutL9W0. --Sasayaki (talk) 01:08, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- This one has to be beyond spin, right? Their only hope would be to say Lolo is a fake or something. Q0 (talk) 01:13, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- Spin? What spin? Lolo is a victim of the apparently violent persecution of Christians by un-American Americans. Hiphopopotamus (talk) 01:43, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- Oh the vanity of being hand-picked by God over everyone else in the world. Steven Kavanagh (talk) 06:15, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- I rather enjoyed hearing that Andy's favourite swimmer, Grill Boy, doesn't have time for a girlfriend, so makes do with one-night-stands instead. Good conservative value there. --PsyGremlinParla! 08:37, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- Oh the vanity of being hand-picked by God over everyone else in the world. Steven Kavanagh (talk) 06:15, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- Spin? What spin? Lolo is a victim of the apparently violent persecution of Christians by un-American Americans. Hiphopopotamus (talk) 01:43, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- This one has to be beyond spin, right? Their only hope would be to say Lolo is a fake or something. Q0 (talk) 01:13, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Andy missed the attacks on her motives for appearing nude in 2009. I can see the obvious Christian message in the photo but the lamestream media called it marketing, and that was three years ago. Whoover (talk) 15:37, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- I don't get all the hype over Lolo - looking at her record, she's done nothing outside of a few indoors titles. Her personal best is 4 years old, looking at her qualifying for the 110m hurdles, her times were awful.
- I get the impression she's another Tebow - a very average athlete, more famous for praying than for their sport. --PsyGremlin講話 15:53, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- Nice arse though.--Fergus Mason Thruppence I got for selling my coat, tuppence for selling my blanket. If ever I 'list for a soldier again, the Devil shall be my Sergeant. 16:12, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Troll request
Could someone ask pope andy about the Catholic church morally justifying condoms? Occasionaluse (talk) 19:23, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
Deliberately false facts
Just came across a series of deliberately false facts some wag had inserted at CP this spring. Nothing on the grand parody scale, though some are obviously untrue. The account was blocked for vandalism, though strangely the edits went unchanged. Is it bad form to give details here, lest they be reverted? MrChris (talk) 20:55, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
- Sometimes it's fun, just to see who over there is watching us. If it's not hilarious, go ahead. Occasionaluse (talk) 21:04, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
More major media coverage for CP
Andy will be delighted, getting a write-up in Australia's leading paper. CP in the Sydney Morning Herald. VOXHUMANA 21:39, 9 August 2012 (UTC)