Debate:British imperialism

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I wasn't debating whether it were true or not, I was debating the addition of unsourced material and was going to offer an alternative that <s>MC</s> BoN add a new section entitled "Colonialism". [[User:Ace McWicked|Ace]][[User Talk:Ace McWicked|<sup>i9</sup>]] 20:27, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 
I wasn't debating whether it were true or not, I was debating the addition of unsourced material and was going to offer an alternative that <s>MC</s> BoN add a new section entitled "Colonialism". [[User:Ace McWicked|Ace]][[User Talk:Ace McWicked|<sup>i9</sup>]] 20:27, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
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:I cut it to this page only to get it off Mei's talk-page. {{User:ListenerX/sig0}} 20:29, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

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Maybe you should tell your neo-pagan buddies that aping the same imaginary friends as the Hammerskin Nation is not a good way to be taken seriously? Not my fault they get so sensitive and defensive when racism or Nazism are mentioned. Otherwise people might turn their eyes on them, and we can't have that, now can we. — Unsigned, by: 174.22.67.138 / talk / contribs

ListenerX's odinism has nothing to do with this conflict. But I'm glad you're calm. It's a good thing. -- =w= 19:44, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
My point was a blanket statement calling the British Empire "the most violent in history" is opinion. Acei9 19:45, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
And my big point was that a genocidal, imperialistic Empire which murdered millions and enslaved ten times that for cheap tea and sugar shouldn't have an article about how quaint and funny they are. People will debate about things like the Armenian Genocide, the Holodomor and the Holocaust until the sun burns out, yet when someone dares to even mention the British and their terrible misdeeds throughout history, it is perpetually ignored. Are you all that big of suckers for the accent, or is it just not worth talking about when it's swarthy heathens dying? — Unsigned, by: 174.22.67.138 / talk / contribs
Whatever, get some sources together for the claim. Having an unsourced "The British Empire covered x territory" is one thing but an unsourced statement about genocide is another. Acei9 19:58, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
Get together some sources? That would be just about the first time ever on this Wiki. I don't know why I'm being held to a high academic standard while neo-Pagans are writing huge screeds about how they're NOT RACIST and that burning cross is actually symbolizing the strength of Thor. If you get your little over-sensitive babies to call off the dogs, I'd be glad to write a real article about the British Empire, instead of just "LOOK HOW CUTE THEY ARE! AREN'T THOSE ACCENTS CUTE? AWWW! HE'S PLAYING WITH AN INDIAN SKULL! HOW CUTE!"— Unsigned, by: 174.22.67.138 / talk / contribs
The Wotanists are about as representative of Germanic paganism as Joseph Stalin was of atheism. Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX 20:28, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
I do not understand this obsession with the British accdent. I hate the Brits. Lived there for over a year and got sick of them very quickly. That said, if you are going to accuse a nation of genocide then source it so it doesnt look like opinion. Its like calling someone a rascist without backing it up, it comes across as opinion. Acei9 20:10, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
The fact that I should even have to back it up is proof of just how devious the Empire was. If I said "The Nazis comitted genocide", no one would question that statement, yet if I said "British imperialism was a violent, bloody affair which killed millions and left entire regions of the world shattered", I would need a college level dissertation to back it up. Heaven forbid if I tried to write "After raising the taxes on the bottom 2 Indian castes to levels that essentially rendered them slaves, the British then violently suppressed the ensuing rebellion in 1857, resulting in many millions of deaths. They were so thirsty for blood, that they surrounded the city of Delhi, murdered every living inhabitant and razed the city to the ground, with a young British soldier writing .... All the city people found within the walls (of the city of Delhi) when our troops entered were bayoneted on the spot, and the number was considerable, as you may suppose, when I tell you that in some houses forty and fifty people were hiding. These were not mutineers but residents of the city, who trusted to our well-known mild rule for pardon. I am glad to say they were disappointed." I would apparently need all the libraries and scholars on earth to "prove" it, even when a simple Google search would show that it did happen. — Unsigned, by: 174.22.67.138 / talk / contribs
Conspiracy theories do not go down well here. Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX 20:28, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
I will urgently write an article about how British people are cute. -- =w= 20:07, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
<crosses Ace off Christmas card list> I have just eaten Toast& stiltontalk 20:20, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
British people are good for about an evening and as it starts to drag on, they become quite irritating with their little quips. — Sincerely, Neveruse / Talk / Block 20:21, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

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I wasn't debating whether it were true or not, I was debating the addition of unsourced material and was going to offer an alternative that MC BoN add a new section entitled "Colonialism". Acei9 20:27, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

I cut it to this page only to get it off Mei's talk-page. Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX 20:29, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
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