Evolution:A Christian's Faith

From RationalWiki
(Difference between revisions)
Jump to: navigation, search
m (2.)
m (link)
Line 8: Line 8:
  
 
==Introduction==  
 
==Introduction==  
As we have learned, both Creation and evolution must be accepted by faith.  Neither is subject to human science, because no one but God was there at the beginning to observe what happened.  One Christian has written the following statements to explain why her faith is in Creation rather than evolution.
+
As we have learned, both Creation and evolution must be accepted by [[faith]].  Neither is subject to human science, because no one but God was there at the beginning to observe what happened.  One Christian has written the following statements to explain why her faith is in Creation rather than evolution.
 
</td><td width=50% valign=top>
 
</td><td width=50% valign=top>
 +
 
==Reality check==
 
==Reality check==
 
Claiming that things humans have not witnessed are matters of faith is ridiculous. For example, take a ship that sinks and no one survives, so there would be no one to witness it but "god". Just because only "god" witnessed it, does not mean scientists could not figure out the reason for the accident.
 
Claiming that things humans have not witnessed are matters of faith is ridiculous. For example, take a ship that sinks and no one survives, so there would be no one to witness it but "god". Just because only "god" witnessed it, does not mean scientists could not figure out the reason for the accident.

Revision as of 06:20, 4 August 2007


The "insane crap" on the left side comes, believe it or not, from a "Science" textbook![1]

Introduction

As we have learned, both Creation and evolution must be accepted by faith. Neither is subject to human science, because no one but God was there at the beginning to observe what happened. One Christian has written the following statements to explain why her faith is in Creation rather than evolution.

Reality check

Claiming that things humans have not witnessed are matters of faith is ridiculous. For example, take a ship that sinks and no one survives, so there would be no one to witness it but "god". Just because only "god" witnessed it, does not mean scientists could not figure out the reason for the accident.

What I Believe and Why

A. Why I Believe in Creation

1.

I believe in creation because I believe in God.

What we think and why

A.

1.

I believe that science offers the most useful model for investigating the universe.

2.

I believe in Creation because I believe in God's Word. I do not believe God would lie to me.

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Genesis 1:1

2.

I do not believe in Creationism because there is no scientific evidence to support it. It fails to explain basic observations in nature.

3.

I believe that God will give me an understanding of His creative work when I accept by faith that He is the creator.

Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God.
Hebrews 11:3a

3.

I believe that science gives us the tools to understand the world around us. The world is amoral, as is science.

4.

I believe in Creation because God gives me evidence in nature that his Word (the Bible) and His creation are in perfect agreement. Both are His work.

4.

Evidence cannot be tautology.

B. What I Believe about creation

1.

I believe that God began His creative work with nothing but Himself.

...so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Hebrews 11:3b

Unlike man when he makes something, God did not need materials to begin.

God + Nothing = Everything
Man + Nothing = Nothing

2.

I believe that when a person chooses not to believe God's Word, that person will usually believe evolution.

Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
Romans 1:25

2.

She's reading the same programming as Andrew Schlafly!

3.

I believe that God commands us to study his creation (the natural world) in order to master it for our benefit and glory.

And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it.
Genesis 1:28a

4. I believe that as we obey God's command to study the natural world (through science), we see much evidence that God created.

The heavens decaler the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handiwork.
Psalm 19:1

5.

I believe that God created people in His image, separate from other living things. He gave us each an eternal soul.

And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Genesis 2:7

6. I believe that God brought all things into existence by direct words and actions. His creating was not a process.

And God said, Let there be light.
And God said, Let there be a firmament.
Genesis 1:3a,6a
By the word of the Lord were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth.
For he spake, and it was done; he commanded, and it stood fast.
Psalm 33:6,9

(note on this quote - the uncapped "his" and "he" are sic!)

7.

I believe that God gave all living things the ability to reproduce themselves within their own kind.

Jack Sparrow?

8.

I believe that God gave the potential for variety within a specific kind.

And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
Genesis 1:11

9.

I believe that God stopped creating at the end of six days; the first law of thermodynamics describes this truth.

Thus the heavens and earth were finished, and all the host of them.
Genesis 2:1

10.

I believe that God is no longer creating anything; He is now preserving His physical creation. The first law of thermodynamics describes this truth.

Thou, even thou, art Lord alone; thou hast made heavan, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.
Nehemiah 9:6

11.

I believe that the physical creation is gradually wearing out. This process started when Adam and Eve disobeyed God and their sin brought a cursse on all of creation. The second law of thermodynamics describes this truth.

Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands. They shall perish, but thou shalt endure: yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment [wear out gradually].
Psalm 102:25,26a

(note for #11: Second Law of Thermodynamics)

12.

I believe that God will destroy this earth with fire and create a new heaven and earth. This change will be sudden.

As a vesture [clothing outfit] shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed.
Psalm 102:26b

C. Why I Do Not Believe in Evolution

1.

Evolution cannot answer my question, "Where did the world come from?"

C. Nobody asked you to "believe" in it.

1.

Evolution is not a theory about "where the world came from". That's probably why.

2.

Evolution is not scientific. The study of science requires


a. something to observe and analyze and record
b. someone to do the observing, analyzing, and recording
c. the ability to repeat this scientific work

In the beginning, the only personality present was God, therefore, He is the only One qualified to answer my question.

Which makes more sense.jpg

2.

Evolution is scientific:


a. check
b. check
c. check

Good scientists don't usually rely on unprovable concepts like God to prove things.

3.

Evolutionary ideas are not verified by scientific evidence.

3.

No, that's creationism. A classic case of psychological projection.

4.

Evolutionary ideas constantly change.

4.

Yes, evolutionary ideas DO constantly change, That's what makes it science, which attempts to build a verifiable model of the real world from empirical evidence, and not religion, which models a mostly-immaterial world on the basis of revelation.

5.

Evolutionary ideas are as varied as the individuals who think them up.

5.

The same can be said about creationism, so this doesn't make sense.

6.

Evolution must be accepted by faith. Faith in evolution is unjustified by works.

6.

Projection again!

References

  1. Science:Order & Reality. 1980,1993 Pensacola Christian College, A Beka Book. Pp. 377-381
Personal tools
Namespaces

Variants
Actions
Navigation
Community
Tools
support