Forum:So I know that 9-11 "truthers" are generally full of shit, but I wanna ask about something: the Ted and Barbara Olson phone calls.

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:::From my reading of the material, I believe the quibble that the truthers have is that the only call attempted by Barbara from Flight 77's onboard flight phones could not connect according to phone records. Others claim that "the cell phone technology in 2001 would not have allowed for a cell phone call". (Disclaimer: I do not follow Truther crankery; I'm just clarifying their position. Pulling a Reverse Strawman I guess you could call it?) [[User:Noir LeSable|Noir LeSable]] ([[User talk:Noir LeSable|talk]]) 15:32, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 
:::From my reading of the material, I believe the quibble that the truthers have is that the only call attempted by Barbara from Flight 77's onboard flight phones could not connect according to phone records. Others claim that "the cell phone technology in 2001 would not have allowed for a cell phone call". (Disclaimer: I do not follow Truther crankery; I'm just clarifying their position. Pulling a Reverse Strawman I guess you could call it?) [[User:Noir LeSable|Noir LeSable]] ([[User talk:Noir LeSable|talk]]) 15:32, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 
::::Truthfully, I never delved into this til it was brought up here, and had to Google far and wide passed all the 2008 election year BS [http://books.google.com/books?id=i1UneDRu8_AC&pg=PA285&lpg=PA285&dq=ted+olsen+fbi&source=bl&ots=g5Cxx45Jax&sig=s3CJvSxcyqsuOjRFWzuyL5Hsm7w&hl=en&sa=X&ei=CMU1VPmnJc6wyAS5l4L4Cw&ved=0CFIQ6AEwCDgK#v=onepage&q=ted%20olsen%20fbi&f=false to come up with this], which is probable and the most plausible. If I were Ted Olson, I wouldn't loose sleep refuting some ex-FBI agent partisan hack trash talking election year crap.  [[User:RobSmith|nobs]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|It all depends what ISIS is.]]</sup> 19:16, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 
::::Truthfully, I never delved into this til it was brought up here, and had to Google far and wide passed all the 2008 election year BS [http://books.google.com/books?id=i1UneDRu8_AC&pg=PA285&lpg=PA285&dq=ted+olsen+fbi&source=bl&ots=g5Cxx45Jax&sig=s3CJvSxcyqsuOjRFWzuyL5Hsm7w&hl=en&sa=X&ei=CMU1VPmnJc6wyAS5l4L4Cw&ved=0CFIQ6AEwCDgK#v=onepage&q=ted%20olsen%20fbi&f=false to come up with this], which is probable and the most plausible. If I were Ted Olson, I wouldn't loose sleep refuting some ex-FBI agent partisan hack trash talking election year crap.  [[User:RobSmith|nobs]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|It all depends what ISIS is.]]</sup> 19:16, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
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I dunno, how to properly reply, so I'm just adding in in edit. Sorr if I'm doing it wrong. Anyway, thanks for the help clearing that up everyone. I appreciate you answering my questions and looking past the "I wanna talk about 9/11 subject header, which I'm sure must've made some eyes roll. Anyway, thanks again! - Grimm.

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So I was arguing with a 9/11 conspiracy nut today, and after debating him for quite a bit, he got mad (cause he'd been losing) and told me to look up Barbara Honegger and then talked about the part where the FBI called Barbara Olson's husband a liar for saying he'd talked to his wife on flight 77. I'm still looking up info on this, but from what I've found so far, I find it interesting. Why would Ted Olson say his wife called him that day if she didn't? — Unsigned, by: Mr. Grimm / talk / contribs 23:58, 7 October 2014

There could be a number of reasons. Dealing with grief, delusions, wanting to put his wife in the limelight, wanting to be in the press himself, etc. Noir LeSable (talk) 22:00, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
Ok, so then, where is Barbara Olson today if she wasn't on the plane?
The explanation is simple: Barbara called Ted's office several times, but Ted was busy and did not talk to her. She relayed her information to the phone receptionist, which was relayed to him. So, when he said, "she called me", it wasn't bullshit. And he did receive the substance of her message. nobs"It all depends what Isil is" 23:23, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
From my reading of the material, I believe the quibble that the truthers have is that the only call attempted by Barbara from Flight 77's onboard flight phones could not connect according to phone records. Others claim that "the cell phone technology in 2001 would not have allowed for a cell phone call". (Disclaimer: I do not follow Truther crankery; I'm just clarifying their position. Pulling a Reverse Strawman I guess you could call it?) Noir LeSable (talk) 15:32, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
Truthfully, I never delved into this til it was brought up here, and had to Google far and wide passed all the 2008 election year BS to come up with this, which is probable and the most plausible. If I were Ted Olson, I wouldn't loose sleep refuting some ex-FBI agent partisan hack trash talking election year crap. nobsIt all depends what ISIS is. 19:16, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

I dunno, how to properly reply, so I'm just adding in in edit. Sorr if I'm doing it wrong. Anyway, thanks for the help clearing that up everyone. I appreciate you answering my questions and looking past the "I wanna talk about 9/11 subject header, which I'm sure must've made some eyes roll. Anyway, thanks again! - Grimm.

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