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:Hi Hans! I believe they are installing userconfirm. --[[User talk:ConservapediaUndergroundResistor|<font color="#00FF6E" face="comic sans ms"><sup>Input</sup></font>]][[User:CUR|<font color="FF00FB" face="Monotype Corsiva" size="3"> The Resistor</font>]][[Special:Contributions/ConservapediaUndergroundResistor|<font color="00AEFF" face="Curlz MT"><sup>Output</sup></font>]] 16:39, 5 March 2009 (EST)
 
:Hi Hans! I believe they are installing userconfirm. --[[User talk:ConservapediaUndergroundResistor|<font color="#00FF6E" face="comic sans ms"><sup>Input</sup></font>]][[User:CUR|<font color="FF00FB" face="Monotype Corsiva" size="3"> The Resistor</font>]][[Special:Contributions/ConservapediaUndergroundResistor|<font color="00AEFF" face="Curlz MT"><sup>Output</sup></font>]] 16:39, 5 March 2009 (EST)
 
::They? --&nbsp;'''[[User:Nx|<u>&nbsp;<font color="teal">''Nx''</font></u>]]/'''[[User talk:Nx|<span style="text-decoration: overline; font-size:xx-small;">''talk''&nbsp;</span>]] 16:40, 5 March 2009 (EST)
 
::They? --&nbsp;'''[[User:Nx|<u>&nbsp;<font color="teal">''Nx''</font></u>]]/'''[[User talk:Nx|<span style="text-decoration: overline; font-size:xx-small;">''talk''&nbsp;</span>]] 16:40, 5 March 2009 (EST)
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:::Well, I at least would be, but I can't really do anything. You need to lift the 'No editing of own article' rule and replace it with 'NPOV'. Not to mention we need a WIGORW, which I will maintain. --[[User talk:ConservapediaUndergroundResistor|<font color="#00FF6E" face="comic sans ms"><sup>Input</sup></font>]][[User:CUR|<font color="FF00FB" face="Monotype Corsiva" size="3"> The Resistor</font>]][[Special:Contributions/ConservapediaUndergroundResistor|<font color="00AEFF" face="Curlz MT"><sup>Output</sup></font>]] 16:41, 5 March 2009 (EST)

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Contents

Herein goeth anything regarding the technicalities of the wiki

FAQs & Problems:

  • Problems with accessing the wiki
  • Queries about extensions
  • Javascript Help
  • CSS Help
  • Wikitalk Help

If you've written, or are using, some extension or script that either might give others problems or is giving you a problem, then either describe it or link to it on this page.

If you've written some piece of code that you want help with, ask here with linkage.

If your browser acts up with some code,ask here.

In short, anything techy, ask, tell or link on this page.

If you think it is a server-type issue, feel free to email the goat at ttoulouse@gmail.com or touloutm@mcmaster.ca for best results.

Ogg files

Why can't I upload .ogg sound files? Stupid time Phantom Hoover! 04:16, 1 February 2009 (EST)

I think the wiki needs to install special software for it. ~Ttony21(talk, contribs) 11:00, 1 February 2009 (EST)

Email function

Seems to have disappeared - or is it just me? --AKjeldsenCum dissensie 20:20, 1 February 2009 (EST)

Trent said it was borked the other day, but it should be good again? ħumanUser talk:Human 00:30, 2 February 2009 (EST)
This is going to be a difficult problem, in order for the e-mail to function I have to have a working mail server on our server. Currently the mail server locks up on boot up. Until I get this sorted out e-mail should not be sent, hence it is disabled. tmtoulouse 13:57, 4 February 2009 (EST)

Just a quick note, the forums support private email, so if you can find your addressee there, you can still pmail them until the server is working. ħumanUser talk:Human 16:20, 5 March 2009 (EST)

Email function 2

How is the email function going? Stupid time Phantom Hoover! 04:32, 8 February 2009 (EST)

Email function 3

Trent, if we don't have a functional mail server then why does the email function work on RWW? Stupid time Phantom Hoover! 12:47, 10 February 2009 (EST)

Newt

I wish to be newt. Please make me a newt. Sorry if this does not belong here. --"CURtalk 13:34, 15 February 2009 (EST)

This doesn't belong anywhere, except maybe in a fairy tale or Monty Python. WëäŝëïöïďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 13:41, 15 February 2009 (EST)
Human is a newt. --"CURtalk 13:42, 15 February 2009 (EST)
If you want to be a newt, you'll have to ask Trent, as the only groups on the user rights menu are sysop, bureaucrat, bot and vandal. Stupid time Phantom Hoover! 13:44, 15 February 2009 (EST)
Than how is Human a newt? --"CURtalk 13:45, 15 February 2009 (EST)
It doesn't do anything. Why not just write "I am a newt" on your user page. WëäŝëïöïďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 13:47, 15 February 2009 (EST)
Because I'm a cheetah, lol. --"CURtalk 13:47, 15 February 2009 (EST)
So why do you want to be a newt, Newtah? ħumanUser talk:Human 01:39, 17 February 2009 (EST)
Why not? --"CURtalk 16:08, 17 February 2009 (EST)
Because you're a cheetah... ħumanUser talk:Human 18:06, 17 February 2009 (EST)

(unindent) And you're a human. . . --"CURtalk 18:07, 17 February 2009 (EST)

Weird things

The tabs have no bottoms. There is a "0" in the top left of the screen... Trent, what did you break? Or not fix yet? ħumanUser talk:Human 01:38, 17 February 2009 (EST)

Huge fonts

Am I the only one for whom the fonts on every page become huge when I log in? They're fine when I log out. --Edgerunner76Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? 08:17, 17 February 2009 (EST)

It seems fine when I log in as any of my myriad socks including, obviously, this one. Kal-El 08:23, 17 February 2009 (EST)
I got huge fonts (& the 0 in top left Human mentions above) when I first accessed the site this morning, but it reverted to normal when I deleted the Intercom messages. WëäŝëïöïďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 11:35, 17 February 2009 (EST)
Thanks. That fixed it. --Edgerunner76Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? 11:59, 17 February 2009 (EST)

Some requests

  1. Could Extension:InputBox be installed?
  2. Could [a_href] be moved from the spam regex to the spam blacklist so it can be whitelisted on certain pages? I want to make a user script that needs that in its code.--Ipatrol 11:25, 21 February 2009 (EST)
'a' + ' href' is the way I solved the second one in one of my scripts. -- Nx talk 11:32, 21 February 2009 (EST)
What about [a._href] (without the underscore), and what about plain [h_ref](no underscore).--Ipatrol 12:28, 21 February 2009 (EST)
Here, this:
     editsection2.innerHTML = "<a " + "href=\"" + editsection.getAttribute("href") + 
                              "\" title=\"" + editsection.getAttribute("title") + "\" >Add comment</a>"
, works. -- Nx talk 12:33, 21 February 2009 (EST)

What about [a.href]--Ipatrol 12:48, 21 February 2009 (EST)

I don't understand. What are you trying to do? -- Nx talk 13:03, 21 February 2009 (EST)
What about something that would enable us to play chess (with custom boards and pieces)? --"C, U Ra(n) boorish, complementing cowbell. 12:49, 21 February 2009 (EST)
What about the popup thing on WP? Stupid time Phantom Hoover! 13:11, 21 February 2009 (EST)
I just finished porting that, it's at User:Ipatrol/popups.js. Now issue 2 is resolved, but what about issue 1?--Ipatrol 13:25, 21 February 2009 (EST)

Not well formed

Trent, the XHTML returned by RW is not well formed and is causing my script to fail. There are two issues: the first one is extensions inserting javascript into the generated page, and not enclosing it in /*<![CDATA[*/ and /*]]>*/ The second one is the site support link, the code inserts </ul> and </div> and no opening tags. I can hack around it, but it would be better if you could fix this. Thanks -- Nx talk 08:02, 22 February 2009 (EST)

Would that be why AutoWikiBrowser doesn't work? It would be really useful if that could be made to work here. Redchuck.gif Генгисunbelieving 08:34, 22 February 2009 (EST)
Probably, though I'm not familiar with AWB. -- Nx talk 08:42, 22 February 2009 (EST)
End discrimination against Mac and Linux users! Stupid time Phantom Hoover! 08:38, 22 February 2009 (EST)
They're working on it -- Nx talk 08:42, 22 February 2009 (EST)
Collective yay for Python! Stupid time Phantom Hoover! 09:05, 22 February 2009 (EST)

I'm going through the source of the Saloon bar to find any more issues, and will list them here:

 $output = '<script language="JavaScript" src="'.$player_path.'audio-player.js"></script>'
            . '<object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="'.$player_path.'player.swf" id="audioplayer'.$id.'" height="24" width="290">'
            . '<param name="movie" value="'.$player_path.'player.swf">'
            . '<param name="FlashVars" value="playerID='.$id.'&'.$param_string.'soundFile='.$file_string.'">'
            . '<param name="quality" value="high">'
            . '<param name="menu" value="false">'
            . '<param name="wmode" value="transparent">'
            . '</object>';

should be

 $output = '<script type="text/javascript" language="JavaScript" src="'.$player_path.'audio-player.js"></script>'
            . '<object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="'.$player_path.'player.swf" id="audioplayer'.$id.'" height="24" width="290">'
            . '<param name="movie" value="'.$player_path.'player.swf"/>'
            . '<param name="FlashVars" value="playerID='.$id.'&'.$param_string.'soundFile='.$file_string.'"/>'
            . '<param name="quality" value="high"/>'
            . '<param name="menu" value="false"/>'
            . '<param name="wmode" value="transparent"/>'
            . '</object>';

I'm also correcting errors in signatures as I find them -- Nx talk 10:05, 22 February 2009 (EST)

  • The EmbedVide extensions uses <embed> instead of <object>, which is not valid xhtml. I don't know if this will cause scripts to fail though. -- Nx talk 10:48, 22 February 2009 (EST)
  • More on the support link: Looks like it gets inserted into the toolbox, but it should be after that, after the </ul> and </div> inside its own div. -- Nx talk 11:05, 22 February 2009 (EST)
  • While fixing the popups script, one of the problems was that it didn't work when there was an intercom message. It was caused by two variables inserted by the intercom extension, named min and max, which conflict with the standard javascript min and max functions (Math.min and Math.max works of course). Could you please rename these two variables? -- Nx talk 05:42, 1 March 2009 (EST)
Nevermind, it was the script's min and max functions, and gedit's syntax highlighting is stupid. Still, it would be a good idea to change those variable names IMHO, since they're quite obvious and the conflict only happens if there's an intercom message, leading to hard to hunt down bugs. -- Nx talk 07:59, 1 March 2009 (EST)

Chalkboard

When I open a page (TWIGO e.g.) that has the chalkboard @ the top at a subheader (i.e. I'm opening it at the bottom) the chalkboard appears there overwriting existing text and won't go 'til I've scrolled it off-screeen & back (Firefox) . ToastToastand marmite 09:14, 1 March 2009 (EST)

It works fine for me - shows the top of the page (including the chalkboard) very briefly while opening the page, then jumps to the relevant section. Are you using monobooks? It might could be something in that interfering with it, although I don't know what, not knowing anything about scripts. WëäŝëïöïďWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 16:44, 1 March 2009 (EST)
nothing in my monobooks. It's now just a blank (or white, I suppose) rectangle that overwrites that section of the page & won't go away until I scroll it off screen & back again. Strange. ToastToastand marmite 20:26, 1 March 2009 (EST)
Pi's archived and the effect has gone, so either there was something on the upper half or it's the page length. ToastToastand marmite 21:28, 1 March 2009 (EST)

Trent? Are you there?

You said you'd be back yesterday; anyhow, why does the email work for RWW, who are on the same server, but not us? Stupid time Phantom Hoover! 14:33, 3 March 2009 (EST)

Editing talk pages

I think that since the email feature does not work for RW, we should allow blocked users to edit their own talk page a la wikipedia. ĵ₳¥ášÇ♠ʘ In Soviet Russia, the slutty Wii insults YOU! 12:56, 4 March 2009 (EST)

Why, did someone go nuts and actually block someone? ħumanUser talk:Human 15:43, 4 March 2009 (EST)

template:mathnav help

I'm just doing some librarian type stuff, and wanted to add some math articles to the Mathnav. But it didn't look like the Bible Guide or other templates I've used. I'd appreciate any help in how you edit it. template:mathnav Thanks.--Sun mowse.pngEn attendant Godot"«Lo-lee-ta: the tip of the tongue taking a trip of three steps down the palate to tap, at three, on the teeth. Lo. Lee. Ta. V.Nabokov» 11:51, 5 March 2009 (EST)

It's automated, unlike the others. You have to add a special template to the articles themselves, like this: {{keyword|mathkey=Metric system}}. The text after mathkey will be displayed on the Mathnav. The article also has to be in Cat:Mathematics or Cat:Mathematicians. --  Nx/talk  12:09, 5 March 2009 (EST)

"RationalWikiWiki has a problem"

When I try to view RationalWikiWiki, I get:

RationalWikiWiki has a problem

Fatal error: Call to a member function selectRow() on a non-object in /home/rwwiki/public_html/wiki/includes/User.php on line 777.

Is someone working on the wiki, or is it just broken? Star of David.png Radioactive Misanthrope 16:37, 5 March 2009 (EST)

This either means that Trent is back, or we're screwed. --  Nx/talk  16:40, 5 March 2009 (EST)
Hi Hans! I believe they are installing userconfirm. --Input The ResistorOutput 16:39, 5 March 2009 (EST)
They? --  Nx/talk  16:40, 5 March 2009 (EST)
Well, I at least would be, but I can't really do anything. You need to lift the 'No editing of own article' rule and replace it with 'NPOV'. Not to mention we need a WIGORW, which I will maintain. --Input The ResistorOutput 16:41, 5 March 2009 (EST)
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