RationalWiki:Technical support
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Purging mediawiki files
Can't that be done automatically?--"Shut up, Brx." 03:33, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
- So, can we do that? Maybe every few days a bot can hit purge on all commons images. Is that feasible? Would it take too much processing power or memory or whatever?--"Shut up, Brx." 03:07, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
- The problem is that it's your cache, and not a server-side thing. A bot wouldn't work—at least not in the way you describe—though there may be other options. Like detaching ourselves from commons altogether, and having a bot-upload system for requested commons images similar to capturebot's sandbox. Peter is procrastinating. 03:11, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
- But the other day, you did the purge for me [1]--"Shut up, Brx." 03:13, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
- No, I had to push purge to clear my own cache. I can't do it 'for' you. Peter is procrastinating. 03:16, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
- Oh. I misunderstood. A shame. Perhaps you could bring up your idea with the big heads? Nx is gone, but I'm sure Blue and Tmt will have opinions.--"Shut up, Brx." 03:19, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
- One day, maybe—it wouldn't be all that easy to do, at least if you wanted to be able to copy over the license information as part of the upload (which would be ideal). Peter is procrastinating. 03:45, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
- Oh. I misunderstood. A shame. Perhaps you could bring up your idea with the big heads? Nx is gone, but I'm sure Blue and Tmt will have opinions.--"Shut up, Brx." 03:19, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
- No, I had to push purge to clear my own cache. I can't do it 'for' you. Peter is procrastinating. 03:16, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
- Errm, no. Purge purges the server-side cache. The problem with the blurry/missing images is somewhere in the caching of thumbnails.--ZooGuard (talk) 06:07, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
- Ok, I didn't know that. Then what do you think we should do? Peter is procrastinating. 06:18, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
- Someone with server access and the requisite knowledge should sit down and either find out as much as possible about the bug and report it to the developers of MediaWiki, or try to fix it. Another option is contacting some of the developers of the "use Commons images anywhere" feature or the caching feature and asking for help. Another option is to have a bot patrolling the Commons images, checking somehow if the image is visible and purging them. All of these require different, but non-minimal amounts of time, skill and effort.--ZooGuard (talk) 08:26, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
- So Trent, in other words. When it comes to the bot thing, wouldn't it be better to do that on the server itself? Doing it with a bot seems... inefficient. Peter is procrastinating. 08:36, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
- But the other day, you did the purge for me [1]--"Shut up, Brx." 03:13, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
- The problem is that it's your cache, and not a server-side thing. A bot wouldn't work—at least not in the way you describe—though there may be other options. Like detaching ourselves from commons altogether, and having a bot-upload system for requested commons images similar to capturebot's sandbox. Peter is procrastinating. 03:11, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
- So has anyone in the know given this any thought?--"Shut up, Brx." 13:08, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
Adding userspace from $wgExemptFromUserRobotsControl
I'm putting this here as part of a larger discussion we need to have about how we wish to present RW's image to people coming in from searches rather than direct links from forums, etc. Bootmii recently resurrected and put in his userspace a number of articles from the Conservapedia space that were deleted by consensus following an extensive review. I deleted them (and was nearly immediately overruled) because it seems to me that permitting a user to have articles of this nature in his userspace completely undermines the policy behind building a consensus to delete them in the first place: getting rid of material that paints RW in a negative light or that in any event is from a period we've grown out of. I'm not "post-Conservapedia" and I'm not trying to have a mission discussion here. This is solely directed at deleted material of this particular nature being resurrected to userspace.
I would like to see this material omitted from Google searches. It's not. It is possible that Mediwiki permits individual pages to be excluded using metatags, but my understanding is that not all robots obey noindex and it is nonetheless too much to be going through userspace and unilaterally deciding what does and doesn't get tagged.
I suggest Trent add userspace to $wgExemptFromUserRobotsControl so we don't have to worry about this. I'll suggest elsewhere that funspace be added as well. ![]()
16:39, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
- I would certainly support that.
Генгисunbelieving
17:29, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
- You're an idiot. Brxbrx has the right answer, $wgExemptFromUserRobotsControl just makes the parser ignore the __INDEX__/__NOINDEX__ magic words if you put them on the page.
- Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. You're concerned about RW's image, really? RW has bigger problems than a few crappy articles that someone is saving in their userspace.
- If you're so concerned about those pages, just desysop and block Bootmii. Problem solved. 109.61.82.156 (talk) 18:36, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
$wgNamespaceRobotPolicies should work fine for this. Tmtoulouse (talk) 06:12, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
- Can we figure this out? Bootmii has not stopped resurrecting the deleted articles.
Acer Blue 03:18, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- Given his random usage of revision delete as well, I'm leaning on desysop & delete. ТyrannisAn iron, but caring, fist 03:30, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- Its been done long ago. 50.130.133.249 (talk) 03:32, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- Given his random usage of revision delete as well, I'm leaning on desysop & delete. ТyrannisAn iron, but caring, fist 03:30, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
I want to renew this concern: these articles show up in relevant Googling. Can we exclude his namespace from external search?--
talk
08:53, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- Better: that all oldid/difflinks are barred from bots, as that's how they are getting around what Trent has already done (see here for why this has come up again). Peter Urist for Mod! 08:57, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- diffs and oldids have noindex by default. It seems google only respects it for pagerank calculations, but otherwise displays the page as a search result. Normally you wouldn't see it as it would be buried at the end of the results, but if you search for bootmii conservapedia for example, the search words are so specific that you will see it, as those are the only relevant results. -- Nx / talk 09:10, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- Ah, so they're indexed, but not given any priority? Then I guess we should leave well-enough alone on this one.--
talk
22:04, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- Ah, so they're indexed, but not given any priority? Then I guess we should leave well-enough alone on this one.--
- diffs and oldids have noindex by default. It seems google only respects it for pagerank calculations, but otherwise displays the page as a search result. Normally you wouldn't see it as it would be buried at the end of the results, but if you search for bootmii conservapedia for example, the search words are so specific that you will see it, as those are the only relevant results. -- Nx / talk 09:10, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
WikiBlame
Anyone willing to install WikiBlame, here or at RWW?--ZooGuard (talk) 11:57, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
- I can give it a shot @rww later. ТyrannisAn iron, but caring, fist 12:05, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
- *bump*--ZooGuard (talk) 09:21, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
- I would really like an answer, positive, negative, or something else. Will it be too hard to adapt the PHP code for RW instead of Wikimedia projects?--ZooGuard (talk) 09:21, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
- Any update?--ZooGuard (talk) 18:50, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- Does anyone pay any attention to topics that are not at the bottom of the page?--ZooGuard (talk) 07:46, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
should special:random exclude pages like...
This? I was rolling random pages and that comes up. K61824Ed Poor types in Chinese? 13:32, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
- I have no idea what we use SimpleForms for, possibly the essay portal's "create an essay" input box... could delete it and see what breaks.
sshole 09:33, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
cquote
When I view RW or RWW in Google Chrome (which I use), the cquote template does not adjust as it should to fit around anything to the right or left, which means the quotes run in front of or behind images or other templates appearing on the page, making them unreadable. I've only seen this in the last couple of days or so, so I'm not sure if it's Chrome that's changed or MediaWiki. In Internet Explorer it looks fine. Is anyone else getting this problem or can shed any light on it? Ŵêâŝêîôîď
Methinks it is a Weasel 18:44, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
- I use Chrome - can you point me to an example of one that's definitely broken for you, so I can check?--
talk
01:31, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- On RWW: Ace McWicked. I hadn't seen it with cquote before, actually, but I had for RWW's awards. Peter with added ‼Science‼ 01:47, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- RWW:MarcusCicero is a particularly messy example, but it's on a lot of pages at RWW, because of the Stalkbox template. On RW, this version of the Otherkin article (before changes) has a very clear example of the quote running in front of an image. Conservapedia:Godspeed has the quote running into the CP template. Wěǎšěǐǒǐď
Methinks it is a Weasel 11:53, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
- Is there anything that can be done about this? Like replacing cquote with something less shitty? Wěǎšěǐǒǐď
Methinks it is a Weasel 09:38, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
- Stop using Chrome.
gnostic 18:50, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
- Stop using Chrome.
- Is there anything that can be done about this? Like replacing cquote with something less shitty? Wěǎšěǐǒǐď
- RWW:MarcusCicero is a particularly messy example, but it's on a lot of pages at RWW, because of the Stalkbox template. On RW, this version of the Otherkin article (before changes) has a very clear example of the quote running in front of an image. Conservapedia:Godspeed has the quote running into the CP template. Wěǎšěǐǒǐď
- On RWW: Ace McWicked. I hadn't seen it with cquote before, actually, but I had for RWW's awards. Peter with added ‼Science‼ 01:47, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Tag filter
Is there a reason the tag filter is showing up in RC? I have no use for it that I know of. sterileevolutionist story telling 05:16, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
- Hasn't it always been there? It is one of those features nobody uses and probably made sense a long time ago. - π 05:33, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
- Certainly not always, but has anyone ever had a use for "HeidelbergKid ignoring everyone and posting new topics in the SB" and "Skype toolbar formatting"? Probably has to do with the abuse filters, but it would be nice if it weren't there but for those who can use it. sterileevolutionist story telling 06:04, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
Liquid Threads
It's obviously the dumbest thing we ever got out in front of. Question is, once you go liquid, can you ever go back? ħuman
03:50, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
- To what extent? It's easy enough to remove it from a page, removing it from the wiki entirely would be more than a little bit harder. Peter Blessed are the cheesemakers 04:06, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
- You can, but archiving them is awkward. I hate them too.--
talk
06:45, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
Special:Watchlist is borken
Someone fix it? ħuman
02:21, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- Mine is not.
ListenerXTalkerX 02:44, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- Mine is. Doesn't load at all. ħuman
02:47, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- Tried a dozen times. Are you sure you loaded yours? Maybe I'll try one of my pupsockets. ħuman
03:00, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- The only reason I even looked at this page was because it showed up on my watchlist.
ListenerXTalkerX 03:02, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- Yup, it's just me. I wonder what is wrong? ħuman
03:03, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- Maybe you have too many pages on it? Try limiting the time window to an hour.
ListenerXTalkerX 03:08, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- I only have 20-30,000 or so on it. It's been doing fine all these years. ħuman
03:10, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- I only have 20-30,000 or so on it. It's been doing fine all these years. ħuman
- Maybe you have too many pages on it? Try limiting the time window to an hour.
- Yup, it's just me. I wonder what is wrong? ħuman
- The only reason I even looked at this page was because it showed up on my watchlist.
- Tried a dozen times. Are you sure you loaded yours? Maybe I'll try one of my pupsockets. ħuman
- Mine is. Doesn't load at all. ħuman
Hmm, your version loaded after a bit of a wait. But a one hour watchlist is useless. ħuman
03:12, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Still broken. Is anyone watching? ħuman
06:16, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- Is it just your watchlist that's broken, or are things generally slow? Peter Urist for Mod! 06:18, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- It is mine that is borken. LX's works, I ran a few pocksuppets, they worked. I tried LX "one hour" thing above and it worked, but very slowly (and is useless of course). When I click "my watchlist", after a bit of a spin of the wheels, it settles down and pretends it is done, but returns no html. I suspect Trent is fucking with me. ħuman
06:26, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- It is mine that is borken. LX's works, I ran a few pocksuppets, they worked. I tried LX "one hour" thing above and it worked, but very slowly (and is useless of course). When I click "my watchlist", after a bit of a spin of the wheels, it settles down and pretends it is done, but returns no html. I suspect Trent is fucking with me. ħuman
I can't work here without a functional watchlist. This is a basic MW functionality. I appreciate your comments, but you are not tech folks fixing the problem. ħuman
06:35, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- Work? I thought all you did here was revert people and tell them they're useless. -- Nx / talk 07:21, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- Either FUCK OFF or FIX IT. Loser. Lol. It is now a month later and you useless "Techs" and "Mods" can't make a simple MW function work? ħuman
04:06, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- Either FUCK OFF or FIX IT. Loser. Lol. It is now a month later and you useless "Techs" and "Mods" can't make a simple MW function work? ħuman
Troll-B-gone
I wanted to recreate the account Maratrean... not to use it, simply to stop anyone to recreate it and use it to impersonate me. And I discover that editfilter blocks it (Troll-B-Gone). I don't really mind so long as that edit filter is permanent. Zack Martin
04:56, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- Create another account; I will rename it to Maratrean. That may do it.--
talk
04:59, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks AD, here it is. Marasomething (talk) 05:04, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- Yep that's me. Zack Martin
05:04, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- Done.--
talk
05:11, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks AD. Zack Martin
06:26, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks AD. Zack Martin
- Done.--
- Yep that's me. Zack Martin
- Thanks AD, here it is. Marasomething (talk) 05:04, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
Time for another abuse filter
Check out the activity around User:Unidyne and User:Green1.--ZooGuard (talk) 16:34, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
Since when does the abuse filter stop administrative actions?
For some reason the abuse filter is preventing me from vaporizing the off-topic neighborhood drama queen hangout. DMorris, on the EIP Network 1 855 282 2882 17:56, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
- Well no it shouldn't be but also no reason to vap the page. Tmtoulouse (talk) 17:59, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
External links
Is there a way of getting external links to open in a new tab. a setting to enable this would be nice, I'm used to hotmail and facebook doing it that I get caught out here. Sophiebecause liberals 19:59, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- Preferences -> Gadgets -> User interface gadgets -> "Open external links in a new tab/window."
Liquid Blue 20:06, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- (EC) The default can be changed with a server side setting. To the best of my knowledge, there's no way to manually set an anchor with target="_blank" so that it works on some but not others.
theist 20:08, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- Ah, cheers blue, I must have read that page while distracted by cat. Sophiebecause liberals 20:16, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
- (EC) The default can be changed with a server side setting. To the best of my knowledge, there's no way to manually set an anchor with target="_blank" so that it works on some but not others.
Watchlist
Mine is borken. Is it just me or the entire internets? ħuman
03:48, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- Alert, Captain, basic function does not work! ħuman
03:57, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- Probably just you, but you never know. Same problem as last time? Peter This is not my first temporal anomaly 03:57, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- Yup, just me. What same problem? ħuman
03:59, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- This one, from exactly a month ago. Strange... Peter This is not my first temporal anomaly 04:03, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- Yup, just me. What same problem? ħuman
- Probably just you, but you never know. Same problem as last time? Peter This is not my first temporal anomaly 03:57, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
Please fix, if there is anyone competent out there. Yes, I scrolled up. Fucking broken for a month? That's just embarrassing. ħuman
04:04, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- Mine works fine. It's probably something on your end, not the server.
Liquid Blue 04:10, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- I checked some sockpuppets, they work fine. It's the server. You're a tech, right? Investigate and fix, don't blame the user. ħuman
04:20, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- Techs don't have server access. Тytalk 04:21, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- (EC) If it's the server then how can a tech help? You need Trent. Peter This is not my first temporal anomaly 04:22, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- (ECx2) 1) I'm not a tech. 2) Techs don't have server access. Only Trent has server access, after Nx turned down the Server Administrator position.
- Having done as you requested and researched the issue, it seems as if you're watching too many pages for RW's server to handle. You may need to remove some pages, or exhort Trent to upgrade the server.
Liquid Blue 04:26, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- I checked some sockpuppets, they work fine. It's the server. You're a tech, right? Investigate and fix, don't blame the user. ħuman
You have 18800 pages on your watchlist, the watchlist is formed with a php file being run on the server. It has to query and pull up information on each page from the database, such as the last diff and timestamp information. It takes a long time to go through all 18800 pages you have, eventually so long that the server assumes the php file is stuck in a loop and "timesout" the request. There is no reasonable fix I can offer to make a 20,000 page watch list function normally. However, I can purge pages from your watchlist with an older timestamp which should make it work. Tmtoulouse (talk) 16:42, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
More cquote issues
Still acting up. Is there any other method we can use instead of leaving the ref under the quote? It just looks awkward. Osaka Sun (talk) 23:18, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- Can you be more specific than "still acting up"? Have you checked Template:Cquote/doc to make sure you're writing it correctly? It's just as shit a template as it's always been, but I can't see anything "broken" about it. + The Chrome issue seems cleared up now. Wėąṣėḷőįď
Methinks it is a Weasel 23:29, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- This is what I'm getting on both Firefox and Safari. Is it similar from before? Osaka Sun (talk) 23:38, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- If you mean the links being in subscript, I don't know why the ref is causing that, but if you subscript around the ref, like this, it looks OK. Wẽãšẽĩõĩď
Methinks it is a Weasel 23:51, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- Alright, thanks. Going back to my original question, should we do the same for unattributed quotes on TAA and other articles? Osaka Sun (talk) 00:01, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- The fourth or fifth parameter is the place quote authors/sources are supposed to be noted in cquote. Re the quotes here, the text already says "in his pompous and self-indulgent e-book Scumbag: Musings of a Subhuman (2007)" right above the quotes, so it would seem a bit redundant to write "TJ Kincaid, Scumbag: Musings of a Subhuman (2007)" again right next to them, but is still appropriate to link to source, hence why I put the links in footnotes. If you want to move the ref link from fourth parameter to the end of the quote, go ahead. ₩€₳$€£ΘĪÐ
Methinks it is a Weasel 00:13, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- For much of this, I'd recommend
{{quotebox}}instead.
moral 00:25, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- Specifically, cquote is more for what you'd call pull-quotes where you'd take a fairly terse remark and set it aside, or something that isn't necessarily needed. I.e., it's for decoration. Because it's just separated and with the quote marks, it's not too distracting, It can also look pretty for those quotes at the top for this reason, too. But quotebox and the blockquote tags are far more appropriate to quoting lengths of text for reference as part of the article instead of just decoration. But I still don't understand the issue here. Ref will automatically superscript when you use them, wrapping them in <sub> and <sup> tags is redundant and breaks the appearance of them.
theist 00:29, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- I thought the problem was supposed to be the fact that linked words appear subscripted in the quote when there's a ref at the end of the line (see OsakaSun's image link), hence why I suggested subscripting the ref link, which seems to fix this (in a lame workaround sort of way). However, OS has since gone & superscripted ref links in a bunch of quotes that don't contain any other links, so I no longer know what this about. Wēāŝēīōīď
Methinks it is a Weasel 06:34, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- I thought the problem was supposed to be the fact that linked words appear subscripted in the quote when there's a ref at the end of the line (see OsakaSun's image link), hence why I suggested subscripting the ref link, which seems to fix this (in a lame workaround sort of way). However, OS has since gone & superscripted ref links in a bunch of quotes that don't contain any other links, so I no longer know what this about. Wēāŝēīōīď
- There is a crapload of quotes on the wiki to change then. Osaka Sun (talk) 00:34, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- On your marks. Get set....
Генгисunbelieving
01:24, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- When I was a young and up-and-coming aspie fascist, the task would have been a piece of cake. Alas, it's been too long, and I might no longer have the energy. So, quotes where the source is better left in <ref> form should be changed from
{{cquote}}to{{quotebox}}? Hmm.
Liquid Blue 04:28, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- When I was a young and up-and-coming aspie fascist, the task would have been a piece of cake. Alas, it's been too long, and I might no longer have the energy. So, quotes where the source is better left in <ref> form should be changed from
- On your marks. Get set....
- Specifically, cquote is more for what you'd call pull-quotes where you'd take a fairly terse remark and set it aside, or something that isn't necessarily needed. I.e., it's for decoration. Because it's just separated and with the quote marks, it's not too distracting, It can also look pretty for those quotes at the top for this reason, too. But quotebox and the blockquote tags are far more appropriate to quoting lengths of text for reference as part of the article instead of just decoration. But I still don't understand the issue here. Ref will automatically superscript when you use them, wrapping them in <sub> and <sup> tags is redundant and breaks the appearance of them.
- For much of this, I'd recommend
- The fourth or fifth parameter is the place quote authors/sources are supposed to be noted in cquote. Re the quotes here, the text already says "in his pompous and self-indulgent e-book Scumbag: Musings of a Subhuman (2007)" right above the quotes, so it would seem a bit redundant to write "TJ Kincaid, Scumbag: Musings of a Subhuman (2007)" again right next to them, but is still appropriate to link to source, hence why I put the links in footnotes. If you want to move the ref link from fourth parameter to the end of the quote, go ahead. ₩€₳$€£ΘĪÐ
- Alright, thanks. Going back to my original question, should we do the same for unattributed quotes on TAA and other articles? Osaka Sun (talk) 00:01, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
- If you mean the links being in subscript, I don't know why the ref is causing that, but if you subscript around the ref, like this, it looks OK. Wẽãšẽĩõĩď
- This is what I'm getting on both Firefox and Safari. Is it similar from before? Osaka Sun (talk) 23:38, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
- Are you guys using the extra brackers for the dimensions of the quote symbols? If you look at the quote here, you'll see tha it doesn't have any problems because I put in extra brackers (I also specified pixels, but you can leave that blank)--"Shut up, Brx." 16:09, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Search
Is it busted again? I'm getting 0 results on anything that isn't an exact page title match. Wéáśéĺóíď
Methinks it is a Weasel 23:40, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
- Not working for me either.
Acer Blue 23:41, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
- It is indeedy doodly busted again - David Gerard (talk) 15:40, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
- Liars! Tmtoulouse (talk) 16:24, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
- Fixed now. Thanks TMT. Wẽãšẽĩõĩď
Methinks it is a Weasel 22:44, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
- Fixed now. Thanks TMT. Wẽãšẽĩõĩď
- Liars! Tmtoulouse (talk) 16:24, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
- It is indeedy doodly busted again - David Gerard (talk) 15:40, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
Where does the #choose magic word come from?
See topic. Tmtoulouse (talk) 04:11, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
- Nx wrote it, but nobody noticed as it met with approval. Pi 3:14 (talk) 04:19, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
- Is it an extension then? Tmtoulouse (talk) 04:33, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
- No idea. - π 04:39, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
- Guess its time to start searching, this is going to get tedious if there is a lot of these around. Tmtoulouse (talk) 04:46, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
- I would look to see if he modified the parser function extension first. From what I remember it is one of the first thing parsed when the html page is being generated, so unlike the old choose tag you could write parser functions that were dependent on the result of the choice. - π 04:49, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
- It should be in RandomSelection.php. -- Nx / talk 04:57, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
- Yah found it, thanks, had pulled a newer version off mediawiki. Tmtoulouse (talk) 05:01, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
- This might be why my sig appears to be a bit broken...
bomination 15:22, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- This might be why my sig appears to be a bit broken...
- Yah found it, thanks, had pulled a newer version off mediawiki. Tmtoulouse (talk) 05:01, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
- It should be in RandomSelection.php. -- Nx / talk 04:57, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
- I would look to see if he modified the parser function extension first. From what I remember it is one of the first thing parsed when the html page is being generated, so unlike the old choose tag you could write parser functions that were dependent on the result of the choice. - π 04:49, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
- Guess its time to start searching, this is going to get tedious if there is a lot of these around. Tmtoulouse (talk) 04:46, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
- No idea. - π 04:39, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
- Is it an extension then? Tmtoulouse (talk) 04:33, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
error when uploading image
I have received the following message when I tried to upload an image:
- Could not open lock file for "mwstore://local-backend/local-public/4/45".
- Could not open lock file for "mwstore://local-backend/local-public/4/45/<filename>".
K61824ZOYG I edit like Kenservative! 13:54, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- This is not entirely unexpected given that there was some maintenance performed earlier and it's still not 100% complete as of now. Ochotonaprincepsnot a pokémon 14:17, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- This should be fixed. Tmtoulouse (talk) 16:57, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- I can confirm that it is, in fact, fixed. Ochotonaprincepsnot a pokémon 13:03, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Ru-rw is down
ru:Заглавная страница is not working now.--Mr. B 15:07, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- yes working on it still. Tmtoulouse (talk) 17:26, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- Should be working, but keep monitoring the situation and link me any problems. Tmtoulouse (talk) 17:36, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
reCaptcha got borked, replaced with ConfirmEdit keep an eye out on any problems with the CAPTCHA and spam bots (saw some got through hopefully sealed the whole). Tmtoulouse (talk) 18:12, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
User rights and other wonky things post-upgrade
Seems like the user rights button hath gone missing? Theory of Practice "the standards of the site are ultimately an expression of the community makeup, and not a set of rules or policies." 16:09, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- Also SUBST-sigs, hotcat, editcount, hotarticle rate, and pop ups. Тypassive-aggressive sigs are the best sigs 16:14, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- Also, click on the "Add Topic" button below and see what happens. Theory of Practice "the standards of the site are ultimately an expression of the community makeup, and not a set of rules or policies." 16:16, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- Probably caused by missing the entire gadget tab in preferences caused by the upgrade. K61824"6+18=24" 16:50, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- (Screencap) K61824I am STILL single 17:30, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- Probably caused by missing the entire gadget tab in preferences caused by the upgrade. K61824"6+18=24" 16:50, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- Also, click on the "Add Topic" button below and see what happens. Theory of Practice "the standards of the site are ultimately an expression of the community makeup, and not a set of rules or policies." 16:16, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Can you guys test gadgets now? Tmtoulouse (talk) 17:50, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Gotten a bit confused too much piled into one topic header let's break it out. Tmtoulouse (talk) 17:54, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Gadgets
Working? Broken? Tmtoulouse (talk) 17:54, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- Article rate and hotcat work. Тypassive-aggressive sigs are the best sigs 18:49, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- Section 0 works. K61824Practicing involuntary celibacy 19:02, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- Navigation popups are working. --transResident Transfanform! 21:41, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- "Rate" tab is misaligned (either one under gadgets), but the stuff should work. K61824I am STILL single 05:24, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Navigation popups are working. --transResident Transfanform! 21:41, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- Section 0 works. K61824Practicing involuntary celibacy 19:02, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- The watch is missing its purge link. The alternative purge gadget that is supposed to add a * link also doesn't seem to work.--ZooGuard (talk) 13:39, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
SUBST_sigs
Haven't looked at it yet. Tmtoulouse (talk) 17:54, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- Is this still broken? Just tried one manually and it worked. Tmtoulouse (talk) 18:13, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- Seems so. Тypassive-aggressive sigs are the best sigs 18:50, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- I can't replicate this bug on rwbeta which will slow down my ability to trouble shoot, suggest just using the raw code in sig rather than a subst template for now. tmtoulouse 20:02, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- Alright. Тypassive-aggressive sigs are the best sigs 20:10, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- I'll test mine now.
narchist
- Still broken. --transResident Transfanform!
- I'll test mine now.
- Alright. Тypassive-aggressive sigs are the best sigs 20:10, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- I can't replicate this bug on rwbeta which will slow down my ability to trouble shoot, suggest just using the raw code in sig rather than a subst template for now. tmtoulouse 20:02, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- Seems so. Тypassive-aggressive sigs are the best sigs 18:50, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Signature cleaning is still on. -- Nx / talk 13:28, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Its still set to false in LocalSettings but I will see if I can track it down. Tmtoulouse (talk) 15:23, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
User rights
What button? Tmtoulouse (talk) 17:54, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- The one on an individual user's page that lets you sysop them/move them to the autopatrolled group. Theory of Practice "the standards of the site are ultimately an expression of the community makeup, and not a set of rules or policies." 17:55, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- It's a gadget right? Can you check again? Tmtoulouse (talk) 17:57, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Bureaucrats are back, and the names of the moderator and ninja groups are singular where they apparently should be plural.
Acer Blue 08:38, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Crats are gone again, the nameing issues has to do with the deprecation of addMessages, its on my list but low priority atm. Tmtoulouse (talk) 15:36, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Add Topic link at the bottom of talk pages
Leads to a page titled "Null" that you can create if you want. Theory of Practice "the standards of the site are ultimately an expression of the community makeup, and not a set of rules or policies." 17:56, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Common.css
Has anything changed in the common.css file? Either the fallbacks for the gradients have changed or something has gone seriously wrong.
d hominem 20:38, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- Browser-related? Looks fine for me in Ubuntu/Chromium. Theory of Practice "the standards of the site are ultimately an expression of the community makeup, and not a set of rules or policies." 20:49, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- Probably. I doubt it specifies o-linear-gradient, but previously it just fell back to white. No version update that I'm aware of, this seems related to the site change.
pathetic 21:04, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- Ah, it's in vector.css, but I don't have the tech rights to fix it.
d hominem 21:10, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- If you have got a fix go for it, you can tech yourself as a mod. Tmtoulouse (talk) 22:09, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- Okay, I'll take a look in the morning.
moral 22:30, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- Resolved with fallbacks and future-proofing in place.
postate 12:43, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Was it that bad with IE before, or was it just broken in the update somehow? -- Nx / talk 12:50, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- This is in Opera, as there was no vendor prefix for the gradient. Previously it just fell back to a white background and coloured border but after the update it didn't for some utterly bizarre reason.
theist 12:53, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- But it did exactly the same in IE (which, although I don't check it on IE regularly, looked normal last time I loaded it in IE9), which is why I played with it a bit more to get the fallbacks in place. Unless there was something up between the differences in adding gradients to background or background-image (I've converted them all to the former) I can't figure out what suddenly went wrong.
moral 12:56, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- (ec) I briefly looked at the IE version, and saw it was similarly horrible before you fixed it, but I'm pretty sure I made a colored border/white bg fallback back when I made this. Probably what borked it was the changes to wikitable css (mediawikiwiki:MediaWiki 1.19#Heads-up for MediaWiki administrators) -- Nx / talk 12:58, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- It looks like tables on the wiki don't get a white background any more automatically. This might bork some other stuff on the wiki. -- Nx / talk 13:00, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- I remember you changing something to do with that but have forgotten what. I think it was fairly obscure, though, I'll keep an eye out for what it is and see if there's a conflict. Changes in the wikitable formatting might explain it.
gnostic 13:02, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- May have found one. The gadget that puts a box around individual WIGO entries is now transparent, rather than yellow. 13:06, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Seems to be a loading order issue. Common.css has a ".vote {background:transparent;}" that's no longer needed (it used to be because of the forced white bg on all tables), and it's now loading after the gadget's css for some reason, overriding it. -- Nx / talk 13:09, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Fixed that one.
pathetic 13:14, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Fixed that one.
- Seems to be a loading order issue. Common.css has a ".vote {background:transparent;}" that's no longer needed (it used to be because of the forced white bg on all tables), and it's now loading after the gadget's css for some reason, overriding it. -- Nx / talk 13:09, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- May have found one. The gadget that puts a box around individual WIGO entries is now transparent, rather than yellow. 13:06, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- I remember you changing something to do with that but have forgotten what. I think it was fairly obscure, though, I'll keep an eye out for what it is and see if there's a conflict. Changes in the wikitable formatting might explain it.
- But it did exactly the same in IE (which, although I don't check it on IE regularly, looked normal last time I loaded it in IE9), which is why I played with it a bit more to get the fallbacks in place. Unless there was something up between the differences in adding gradients to background or background-image (I've converted them all to the former) I can't figure out what suddenly went wrong.
- This is in Opera, as there was no vendor prefix for the gradient. Previously it just fell back to a white background and coloured border but after the update it didn't for some utterly bizarre reason.
- Was it that bad with IE before, or was it just broken in the update somehow? -- Nx / talk 12:50, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Resolved with fallbacks and future-proofing in place.
- Okay, I'll take a look in the morning.
- If you have got a fix go for it, you can tech yourself as a mod. Tmtoulouse (talk) 22:09, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- Ah, it's in vector.css, but I don't have the tech rights to fix it.
- Probably. I doubt it specifies o-linear-gradient, but previously it just fell back to white. No version update that I'm aware of, this seems related to the site change.
- Browser-related? Looks fine for me in Ubuntu/Chromium. Theory of Practice "the standards of the site are ultimately an expression of the community makeup, and not a set of rules or policies." 20:49, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
Math tags
Also broken. Тypassive-aggressive sigs are the best sigs 22:37, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- I skimmed one of the updates and I think it mentioned about the maths tags and HTML, might want to read through the "what's new" pages.
narchist 01:20, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Test. Tmtoulouse (talk) 15:15, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you! Тypassive-aggressive sigs are the best sigs 15:16, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
LQT toolbar
Uncaught Error: Unknown dependency: ext.wikiEditor. LQT needs to be updated. -- Nx / talk 06:39, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Updated, where best can I check for this error? Tmtoulouse (talk) 15:19, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Intercom
Trying to write a new message results in an internal server error. -- Nx / talk 06:42, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Hopefully fixed, though what I am doing maybe bad? xml::hidden is no longer valid to use apparently so switched to html::hidden, thoughts? Tmtoulouse (talk) 15:20, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Best of Conservapedia
Conservapedia:Best of Conservapedia Internal server error -- Nx / talk 06:42, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Fixed, though see above regarding xml::hidden. Tmtoulouse (talk) 15:22, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Topicon
Seems to make the title have more padding than it needs.
theist 14:09, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Something to do with overflow in the header css.
gnostic 14:25, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Unless it's just me, there's no links to 'saloon bar' 'forum' etc. --Psygremlin (talk) 13:26, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
- "Logs" is also gone, & there are links to non-existant "community portal" & "current events" pages. Wēāŝēīōīď
Methinks it is a Weasel 17:24, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
- Its all there, might be a cache issue, shift reloading fix it for you? Tmtoulouse (talk) 22:18, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
- Yup, seems to be all there now. Thanks! --Psygremlin (talk) 10:23, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
- Its all there, might be a cache issue, shift reloading fix it for you? Tmtoulouse (talk) 22:18, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Vector javascript of some sort
I didn't catch the filename, but there's some Vector (theme) related JavaScript that's making my Firefox (on a somewhat aging netbook) go batshit. It soaks up 100% CPU for a fair fraction of a minute before giving me the page. I shall try to catch it in more detail ... but anyone else seeing this? - David Gerard (talk) 20:44, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
- It's http://rationalwiki.org/w/load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=jquery%2Cmediawiki&only=scripts&skin=vector&version=20120613T182239Z:62 - David Gerard (talk) 03:42, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
- Yeowwwch! I've seen prettier Wix sites. But MediaWiki:Vector.js is empty, and MediaWiki:Common.js doesn't have anything out of the normal in it. So I can't see where you're getting that from.
narchist 10:13, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
- Yeowwwch! I've seen prettier Wix sites. But MediaWiki:Vector.js is empty, and MediaWiki:Common.js doesn't have anything out of the normal in it. So I can't see where you're getting that from.
Old rating gadget
MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition: HotArticleRate2 is an outdated version, it should be removed. -- Nx / talk 06:51, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- For the record, this is now done.
postate 02:22, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Capturebot2 down?
The last requests haven't been captured: User:Capturebot2/sandbox.--ZooGuard (talk) 13:41, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Yes it is currently not functioning. Tmtoulouse (talk) 15:24, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
Weird error
When I attempt to mark an edit as patrolled via pop ups I get a message saying I am a session hijacker. Marking the edit normally produces no error. Тypassive-aggressive sigs are the best sigs 03:45, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
- A change in one of the recent MW versions, patrolling now needs a special patrol token, the script needs updating. -- Nx / talk 06:10, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Updated since my last visit is gone
What happened to that? -- Nx / talk 06:10, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
- The what? Tmtoulouse (talk) 22:19, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
- Green thing in the fossil record of a watched page. Been very erratic of late. Peter This is not my first temporal anomaly 22:23, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
The server threw a temporary fit
At about 5:14am PDT/12:14pm UTC the server went berserk and stopped responding to the outside world for about 15 minutes. During this time, it responded to ping, but the site timed out on any page loads. About 15 minutes later, the blog uptime counter iframe actually loaded (instead of timing out itself) and gave a system load reading of 69.30. It's been steadily decreasing, but is at 9.29 as of this comment. Ochotonaprincepsnot a pokémon 1013 points 12:42, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
- (EC you will die a painful death) I blame Tetronian. [3] -- Nx / talk 12:56, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
- The Special:Block page also doesn't have any of the RW customizations for time period or block reason and seems to be a default MediaWiki list now. The server is also being very slow, even though the load is about normal (around 2.75). Ochotonaprincepsnot a pokémon 1013 points 14:36, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
- They are all there, again, maybe a cache issue. Tmtoulouse (talk) 22:19, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
- The Special:Block page also doesn't have any of the RW customizations for time period or block reason and seems to be a default MediaWiki list now. The server is also being very slow, even though the load is about normal (around 2.75). Ochotonaprincepsnot a pokémon 1013 points 14:36, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
VandalBrake
For some reason, I cannot access the page to place an account into the vandal brake. It just comes up blank. The Punk Symphony of Noise Your mental puke relief 03:30, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
. If that looks like math, then this problem has been fixed.