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::::::::The demand for consistency on this wiki is patently absurd. LX's actions were preemptive. <sup>&mdash; Sincerely, [[User:Neveruse513|Neveruse513]] / [[User_Talk:Neveruse513|Talk]] / [[Special:Block/Neveruse513|Block]]</sup> 17:47, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
 
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===Why I moved the page back===
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Superfluous quote marks or other point-making in a page's title is not proper for mainspace pages, as readers of the Wiki will be faced with an unnecessary redirect when looking up ''Creation Museum'', which is its recognized and proper name, however inappropriate some of us may find that. I have put the quote marks in the DISPLAYTITLE of the page until the debate here has concluded. {{User:ListenerX/sig0}} 17:54, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

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What other creation museums are out there? I think it would be interesting to look at their "evolution" over time Tmtoulouse 22:14, 22 May 2007 (CDT)

I find it interesting that CP has no entry on the Creation Museum at all. --Kels 22:18, 22 May 2007 (CDT)
The supposedly-Christian cp also didn't have an article on Charity until I created it[1]--PalMD-Talk 22:22, 22 May 2007 (CDT)
True, but charity doesn't fall into the propaganda that their ideology demands, and something like the creation museum does. It's also attached to their beloved AiG, so you'd think there'd be something. --Kels 22:28, 22 May 2007 (CDT)
OK, but they also did not have an article on the American Flag or Pledge of Allegiance until I created them. I was shocked, I tell you, shocked, at this omission! humanbe in 11:22, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

Contents

List of creation museums

A broad list

Kent Hovind's


Biological "theme

I am trying out a biological theme here with an evolutionary bent. I did a "conspecifics" section and am thinking we can do something like "Ecology of creation museums" looking at where these places usually pop up, "the prey of creation museums" who goes to these things? And then maybe an analysis of Ken Ham's museum for how it fits into these categories? Just trying out some idea...thoughts? Tmtoulouse 10:23, 23 May 2007 (CDT)

It hath been doneth!

cp:Creation museum <-- Somebody actually created it. And... uh... just read it. At the time of this writing, there is only one version (Quicklink), but wow. It's worth it. Imagine an actually concise Conservative at work. --Sid 06:17, 27 May 2007 (CDT)

nah, it has now been zappeth. --CatWatcher 14:25, 28 May 2007 (CDT)

Ken Ham, there's something not kosher about that guy... --Kels 14:26, 28 May 2007 (CDT)

Really? What makes you think that? MiddleMan

Well, first, there's the foreskin.DocSock 12:25, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

I could not resist

AP Newsbreak: Creation Museum's 'Adam' shared sexual exploits online[1]

Linden tells the AP that he is no longer affiliated with the site.[2]

A check of “whois”, though, says otherwise:

  • Registrant:
  • Eric Linden
  • […]
  • Los Angeles, California […]
  • United States
  • Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
  • Domain Name: BEDROOMACROBAT.COM
  • Created on: 30-Jan-06
  • Expires on: 30-Jan-08
  • Last Updated on: 26-Jan-07

--TimS 14:55, 8 June 2007 (CDT)

Seems Mike Gannon-ish--PalMD-yada yada 15:08, 8 June 2007 (CDT)


Creation Museum Figures

I'm really looking forward to seeing how they'll do, business-wise. I'm frightened by the distinct possibility they'll do OK, though I'm hoping for a meteor strike. I really hope I can get there before I miss this great monument to Blind Stupidity. Doggedpersistance 15:55, 1 August 2007 (CDT)

I think the Monument to Blind Stupidity actually rests on a Florida beach (which will soon be under all that run-off from the Greenland ice sheet), funded in part by Ed Poor. CЯacke® 21:47, 3 August 2007 (CDT)

References

  1. http://www.wtol.com/Global/story.asp?S=6627249
  2. http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2007/06/adam_and_aigs_s.html

New info

See this, also, catch PBS's NOVA tomorrow night for a show on ID.--PalMD-If it looks like a donut, eat it 15:29, 12 November 2007 (EST)

Great tour. I'm actually pretty impressed with the purely technical aspects of that "museum". Seems like a really professional design and setup. --AKjeldsenGodspeed! 18:03, 12 November 2007 (EST)
It is quite pretty inside and would rival any "secular" museum around in those terms. Apart from that they could have saved 25 million dollars by telling people to go read Genesis.NetharianCubicles are prisons! 23:02, 15 January 2009 (EST)

Reference for the year end money beg

I changed the reference because the "Bluegrass Report" is notoriously liberal (and run by a Democratic party person). I figured the AiG request would make more sense. Researcher 22:59, 18 December 2007 (EST)

I merged the two of them: "we report you decide"?-αmεσ (ninja) 23:00, 18 December 2007 (EST)
Works for me. If anyone who actually LIKES the Museum reads this, then they can see what Bluegrass Report has to say about it. Researcher 23:03, 18 December 2007 (EST)


coconuts

Quote: "when asked why the T - rex had six inch long serrated teeth the guide will explain that those were for opening coconuts." Funniest thing I read recently. Made me laugh out loud.--Bobbing up 05:28, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

Page move.

Nope. it IS a museum, just nao a terribly good one. Not a "museum." RaoulDuke 13:33, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

I'll admit that I am taking my cue from PZ Myers on this one. It does infuriate me that anyone should consider this on the same level as a museum that is actually dedicated to the advancement of human knowledge and understanding. --Edgerunner76Tah-daaaaaaah! 13:39, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
I would agree that something like Wikipedia would not and should not use "Museum" but, from the perspective of RW, it does seem appropriate. --Edgerunner76Tah-daaaaaaah! 13:43, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
I have nothing against the title, just discussion first would have been nice. You fixed the links? - π 13:40, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
I don't agree with the page title move, but adding some quotation marks within the article itself is OK with me. Aboriginal Noise Punkrock 13:42, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I did let things get the better of me. I still think that it is appropriate. --Edgerunner76Tah-daaaaaaah! 13:43, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
To be consistent we'd need to change this one as well.--BobNot Jim 14:04, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
I totally agree and I was about to, but I held up after this section topic was created. --Edgerunner76Tah-daaaaaaah! 14:06, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
The more I think about this the more silly the idea seems. I support moving it back. - π 14:25, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm not so sure. It's really a propaganda device rather than a "museum" isn't it? --BobNot Jim 14:39, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
You could say the exact same thing about every other national history museum in the world--starting with the Smithsonian, the Canadian Museum of Civilization, the Imperial War Museum or the British Museum. Museums are incredibly important lieux de mémoire where memory-making, nation-building and community-building take place. We call it "propaganda" only when we disagree with the ideologies that underpin the process. RaoulDuke 16:32, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

"Museum" = snark = good. End. — Sincerely, Neveruse513 / Talk / Block 16:38, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

I support moving it back as well. It is a museum, just the Confusion Museum, like Prof. Park said. Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX 16:55, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
This is just about the quote marks and not the word museum, right? In which case I agree with Neveruse and Edgerunner above. It's RW styled snark and doesn't really comment on whether other museums use propaganda or not - we're working with the broad and nobel use that people think museum stands for; a building which records history with academic honesty, and the CM blatantly isn't this sort of thing. Scarlet A.pngnarchist 17:01, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
But it is the name of the facility, like it or not. Are we going to start referring to AiG as "Answers" in "Genesis"? Aboriginal Noise Punkrock 17:05, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
What he said. Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX 17:20, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
I don't think that really follows on at all. AiG is both a name and reasonably accurate, and an original title at that, while "Creation Museam" is slightly less dramatically patentable... but of course, that's subjective but I'm pretty sure this uses museum in a more weasel-worded sense. But does this matter at all? If peopel feel strongly about it, revert it back. Scarlet A.pngnarchist 17:29, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
I'm not opposed to "Answers" in Genesis either. What's next? Do you fuckers want to move "hell" to "Hell" in another lame attempt to conform to a MoS? — Sincerely, Neveruse513 / Talk / Block 17:30, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
There's a whole bunch of stuffz we could add quotes to - why just these few? all the argument from... articles should be "argument" from..., and there's "church" of scientology, "compassionate" conservatism, extrasensory "perception"... I could go on all day. TLDR - move it back or do them all. Totnesmartin 17:44, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
The demand for consistency on this wiki is patently absurd. LX's actions were preemptive. — Sincerely, Neveruse513 / Talk / Block 17:47, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
One prerequisite for rationality is consistency. Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX 17:49, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Why I moved the page back

Superfluous quote marks or other point-making in a page's title is not proper for mainspace pages, as readers of the Wiki will be faced with an unnecessary redirect when looking up Creation Museum, which is its recognized and proper name, however inappropriate some of us may find that. I have put the quote marks in the DISPLAYTITLE of the page until the debate here has concluded. Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX 17:54, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

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