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It's awful. Totnesmartin (talk) 18:55, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
and it signs the sig twice.
This is shit.new threads are supposed to at the bottom aren't they? Is this going to be spread across all of RW? Totnesmartin (talk) 18:56, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
Having to remember to sign posts in some places but not others is going to create a mess.
You can alter the listing order from the top of the page. You can select newest replies at the top or first posted at the top. It's added functionality but since you're either not used to it or unaware of it, you'll assume it's just shit.
I'm just wondering if I'm the only person who assessed the functionality of this before passing comment... yes, it's fugly, I'll agree every day of the week. But when I first started reading Wiki talk pages after years of using bulletin boards I had no clue as to what was happening. You had to invent an entire new piece of etiquette about indents and replying just to make it work. This automates and controls that with specific replies and notifications. The internet spent the best part of a decade working out how best to set up a forum system and it came up with something exactly like this - it's only on Media Wiki talk pages that you get anything different. So if people complain about this I don't see why they don't head over to every other forum on the internet and complain there too.
I wasn't interested in learning a whole new way to interact online this week, sorry. Especially on a site where interaction works just fine already.
As someone said somewhere, Liquid Dreads might work well on new sites, but existing ones won't like it.
You get a warning if you type four tildes. The text is cut off, but I think I fixed that, although it's still broken for me.
I never got any warnings. (EDIT:nor for this) Totnesmartin (talk) 19:18, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
I must admit, these are pretty hideous. I'm going to be a luddite on this and say we don't need to go this route. If you want to keep it in the forum, fine, but keep it off the rest of RW - including talk pages.
I looks hideous, navigation is screwed up - I clicked reply and then went on a tour of the other sub-headings. I think most of us by now - even newbies are au fait enough with wiki language and layout that we can move away from this format.
Nobody is going this route (well some people have but that is there problem). This a trial run of a very new feature. After having used it for less than an hour, it was already clear that it was not ready to be used across the whole forum space. After being here for nearly a week, sometime in the last twenty-four hour the chicken littles noticed this page and felt that this little experiment is too avant garde for them and want it burnt to the ground. This wiki is rational, unless the topic is the wiki itself, then all ends of emotional ranting is required.
Nobody is playing beta with day-to-day operation is my point, hence the chicken little analogy. There is only two pages were this is being trialled and the people here are acting like this is the final product about to be hoisted across the entire site. We are unlikely to implement this before Wikipedia does at least.
It's the people who are screaming "OMGZ LiquidThreads is ruining my wiki, delete it NAO" and who think lqt should be "uninstalled for a useless piece of junk, the bits that harbored it degaussed, burned over and sown with salt".
But to whom does it reply?
Top dude. Okay I guess.
Yes, in order to linearize discussions. You can go off on tangents if you want by using the other reply buttons.
This whole page is pretty tangential at this point.
The way the tangents get formatted is still confusing me a little. I get what it's trying to do, but here for instance, I read some trolling by Human then suddenly ran into this discussion.
This is not a complaint - it's new so I'm still getting used to it. The "parent" button is kind of useful, although a "Now take me back to where I just was" button would be useful after you've clicked it.
I have a feeling, though, that it would lead to some horrible spaghetti on complex talk pages: at the moment we usually just reply at the end of each topic but this will make it much easier to reply anywhere.
When this first appeared I had four problems:
- Looks - it's looking much better now; thanks, Nx.
- Size - still a bit tall, but I suppose that helps make things clearer. I'll probably get used to it.
- Speed - much better now; thanks, Nx.
- Confusion - I'll probably get used to it.
In other words, I'm about 90% convinced this is a good idea and will work.



