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better now?

    -- Nx / talk19:41, 29 November 2010

    My take on the fugliness has more to do with how chunky the whole thing is, and how much screen real estate each message takes up. It's got an unwieldy feel about it, if that makes sense. Although I know some folks were more motivated by the shaded background.

      Kels (talk)20:32, 29 November 2010

      Actually, it's just one extra line for the sig/timestamp and the buttons. I hope you don't have javascript disabled though, because then you'll see the buttons in the "More" menu below each comment. That's probably something I should fix.

        -- Nx / talk20:38, 29 November 2010
         

        And IMHO the grey background did add to the "heavy", clunky feeling, but with the white it almost looks like traditional talk pages.

          -- Nx / talk20:42, 29 November 2010
           

          Still seems a bit buggy/clunky to me, though I very much like the overall idea. Just sayin'.

            Picon small.pngAcer Blue20:42, 29 November 2010

            The idea is great, but it makes things take up far too much space. It's not just the sig/buttons, it's all the extra whitespace. With just 5 comments, this topic was already taking up half a screen. That will make long topics on WIGO:CP or SB almost unreadable.

              SuspectedReplicant retire me20:56, 29 November 2010

              I agree with you there - I'm not sure places like TWIGOCP and the Saloon Bar would benefit from this system. Perhaps for that type of informal discussion a modified, streamlined version of liquidthreads would be more appropriate, but they're obviously not developing something like that.

              The forumspace, however, would benefit from looking more like an organized forum.

                Picon small.pngAcer Blue21:03, 29 November 2010

                TWIGO:CP and the Saloon bar would benefit more because they have a lot of unrelated threads, with a higher chance of ECs, and a huge db size overhead. The Forum is actually a partial solution to the same problem LQT is trying to solve, because it separates threads into individual pages, LQT goes further and makes each comment a separate page.

                  -- Nx / talk21:13, 29 November 2010

                  I am getting substantial load times on this page. Is it just me?

                    Tmtoulouse (talk)21:15, 29 November 2010

                    Nope. It's incredibly slow to load, and seems to be screwing up Firefox too - it's started taking up a lot more processor time than usual.

                      SuspectedReplicant retire me21:20, 29 November 2010
                       

                      Problem is, if you had the same amount of comment traffic we do now, this version of LQT would increase the screen length what, four times? That's a hell of a lot of scrolling, and to my mind that makes things less readable, even with the benefit of doing away with the occasional EC (and they only ever happen to me occasionally, so to me they're not a big deal).

                        Kels (talk)21:22, 29 November 2010
                         

                        This layout on those pages would be a total disaster. We'd make the World's Highest Website look like a speed bump.

                          SuspectedReplicant retire me21:22, 29 November 2010
                           
                           

                          I've decreased the padding and hidden the toolbar (the reply, parent, more buttons in the lower right of each comment) until you hover over a comment. Better?

                            -- Nx / talk21:43, 29 November 2010

                            That is actually quite a bit better.

                              Picon small.pngAcer Blue21:54, 29 November 2010

                              I agree its looking pretty good, just the load times on this page seem excessive.

                                Tmtoulouse (talk)21:56, 29 November 2010

                                Yeah, LQT could do with some optimizations. The problem is that since each comment is a separate page, there's a performance overhead - similar to how template signatures slow down the saloon bar drastically.

                                  -- Nx / talk22:00, 29 November 2010
                                   
                                   
                                   
                                   
                                   
                                   
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