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::::::Trolling is a art, sometimes a stealthy one. Not everyone recognizes trolling, and the "be nice, stamp out troll starvation" faction is well represented on this wiki. [[User:CamelCasePragmatist|CamelCasePragmatist]] ([[User talk:CamelCasePragmatist|talk]]) 15:23, 14 January 2015 (UTC) | ::::::Trolling is a art, sometimes a stealthy one. Not everyone recognizes trolling, and the "be nice, stamp out troll starvation" faction is well represented on this wiki. [[User:CamelCasePragmatist|CamelCasePragmatist]] ([[User talk:CamelCasePragmatist|talk]]) 15:23, 14 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
:::::::Besides which, sometimes the troll's aim(particularly a sealioning troll) is to make you look uninterested in defending your position, not for their own entertainment, but to make a point about yourself or your movement. [[User:Ikanreed|Ikanreed]] ([[User talk:Ikanreed|talk]]) 16:13, 14 January 2015 (UTC) | :::::::Besides which, sometimes the troll's aim(particularly a sealioning troll) is to make you look uninterested in defending your position, not for their own entertainment, but to make a point about yourself or your movement. [[User:Ikanreed|Ikanreed]] ([[User talk:Ikanreed|talk]]) 16:13, 14 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
| + | ::::::::Well, yes, and then they may say "(crickets)" or something if no one engages. But that'll usually be the end of it. They can't go around forever saying "No one engaged with me in this discussion" because no one will respond to that either. They can claim victory, but it feels like a lonely and hollow victory if no one seems to care about the declaration of winning by default. [[User:Landmartian|Landmartian]] ([[User talk:Landmartian|talk]]) 16:59, 14 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
::::::I don't presume to know what other people would think. I know what -I- would do - fuck with the troll and then go after them IRL if they annoyed me enough. It's not a good idea to presume what others would do. --[[User:Castaigne|Castaigne]] ([[User talk:Castaigne|talk]]) 16:06, 14 January 2015 (UTC) | ::::::I don't presume to know what other people would think. I know what -I- would do - fuck with the troll and then go after them IRL if they annoyed me enough. It's not a good idea to presume what others would do. --[[User:Castaigne|Castaigne]] ([[User talk:Castaigne|talk]]) 16:06, 14 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
| + | :::::::Troll identification is all about presumption, though, except that it works in the other direction. Instead of looking at motives and figuring out what actions would likely result, one looks at actions and figures out possible motives. [[User:Landmartian|Landmartian]] ([[User talk:Landmartian|talk]]) 16:59, 14 January 2015 (UTC) | ||
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Hello, and welcome to RationalWiki. Please pull up a gas tank and enjoy your stay. Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 07:37, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks. Glad to be here. Long time fan and reader; I now feel confident enough to contribute. --Castaigne (talk) 08:33, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
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Removing talk page posts
Don't do this. Thanks. PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.
02:54, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
- I removed it?
- Oh shit, I totally did. I'm sorry about that. That was completely unintentional. --Castaigne (talk) 03:00, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
- I kinda figured. PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.
03:01, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
- I kinda figured. PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.
How badly did it hurt...
... when you fell off of that horse? PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.
03:28, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
- Bwah? Oh God, what did I fuck up now? --Castaigne (talk) 03:32, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
- Nothing. I thought you were Hildred Castaigne. So sorry for the mix-up. I guess it is a pretty common name... PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.
03:38, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
- Oh no, you have found the right person indeed! My apologies; I thought you were referring to a moral "high horse" and indeed I have been brought often to a low state by unfounded presumption...that incident with my horse occurred long in the past and I have since forgotten it. The pains are long absent, though it was a severe blow at the time...strange. I had not thought anyone recalled that. You are perhaps a friend of my cousin?
- (Sorry. Coffee ingestion at the start of my 'day' not yet complete.) --Castaigne (talk) 04:01, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
- Nothing. I thought you were Hildred Castaigne. So sorry for the mix-up. I guess it is a pretty common name... PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.
TERF
What is? ħuman
03:59, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
- Never mind, I looked it up. "Acronym for Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist. That group of feminists that claims that trans women aren’t really women, as biological determinism is only a fallacy when used against them, not when they use it against others." Sounds like a term anyone should be embarrassed to know, let alone type in public. ħuman
04:01, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
No seriously, though
please don't spark more fights, it isnt going to help us. I really dont care which side is right in this, beyond the fact some people tried a putsch of some form which is the wrong way to have fixed issues. We really dont need people throwing more attacks at people then there already are, so please chill?--Miekal 20:07, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but I will do what I please, as I please, how I please. If you think that I am operating incorrectly, you are certainly free to demand that I be banned permanently from RW. --Castaigne (talk) 21:39, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
Sysop
The fact I am mking you a sysop is unrelated to anything you or anyone else may have said in the ongoing kerfuffle, about which I know only a little and care even less. But I'm leaving for a bike ride and then have to clean my crib for dinner guests, and you may find yourself needing to unblock yourself at some point. Father Vivian O'Blivion (talk) 20:22, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
- I thank you for your consideration and support, but I would very much prefer that the sysop mantle be removed from me. I have no interest in holding any position of authority, small as it may be. --Castaigne (talk) 21:39, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
Substantiation required
My misogynistic comments you claim I made - what were they? Substantiate or withdraw and fuck off. Acei9 21:14, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
- Oh my dear Ace, my substantiations and evidence will be forthcoming. It may take time, because I am very busy at work right now, but you are very, very, VERY much on my mind. Hopefully my weekend of the 4th will be free enough to deal with you. And I will be proved correct. --Castaigne (talk) 21:39, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
It's the weekend of the 4th!
Oh my dear Ace, my substantiations and evidence will be forthcoming. It may take time, because I am very busy at work right now, but you are very, very, VERY much on my mind. Hopefully my weekend of the 4th will be free enough to deal with you. And I will be proved correct.
- Waiting with great anticipation...Acei9 20:56, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
- Gonna have to keep waiting. I am, no lie, involved in IRL shit till possibly March 15th. No worries, though; I haven't forgotten. --Castaigne (talk) 23:18, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
Sealion?
I was trying to figure out which of these definitions you might be referring to. Landmartian (talk) 01:15, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
- The webcomic Wondermark may offer a clue. CamelCasePragmatist (talk) 01:41, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
- The sea lion has a point. Landmartian (talk) 01:50, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
- No, the sea lion does NOT have a point. Please understand why sealioning is bad. --Castaigne (talk) 15:54, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
- What's the difference, if any, between a sea lion, as described there, and a troll? Landmartian (talk) 04:43, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- Sealioning is a specific trolling technique.--TiaC (talk) 05:00, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- I was about to create the redirect, but it's already there. Landmartian (talk) 05:01, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- Sealioning is a specific trolling technique.--TiaC (talk) 05:00, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- What's the difference? None, of course. Which was my point. It's merely a troll tactic.
- Trolling sealioning rape "reasonable discussionist" is my accurate assessment.--Castaigne (talk) 15:03, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- If that were true, wouldn't people quietly think to themselves "It's best not to feed the troll"? Maybe that's what they're doing. Landmartian (talk) 15:09, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- Trolling is a art, sometimes a stealthy one. Not everyone recognizes trolling, and the "be nice, stamp out troll starvation" faction is well represented on this wiki. CamelCasePragmatist (talk) 15:23, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- Besides which, sometimes the troll's aim(particularly a sealioning troll) is to make you look uninterested in defending your position, not for their own entertainment, but to make a point about yourself or your movement. Ikanreed (talk) 16:13, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- Well, yes, and then they may say "(crickets)" or something if no one engages. But that'll usually be the end of it. They can't go around forever saying "No one engaged with me in this discussion" because no one will respond to that either. They can claim victory, but it feels like a lonely and hollow victory if no one seems to care about the declaration of winning by default. Landmartian (talk) 16:59, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- Besides which, sometimes the troll's aim(particularly a sealioning troll) is to make you look uninterested in defending your position, not for their own entertainment, but to make a point about yourself or your movement. Ikanreed (talk) 16:13, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- I don't presume to know what other people would think. I know what -I- would do - fuck with the troll and then go after them IRL if they annoyed me enough. It's not a good idea to presume what others would do. --Castaigne (talk) 16:06, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- Troll identification is all about presumption, though, except that it works in the other direction. Instead of looking at motives and figuring out what actions would likely result, one looks at actions and figures out possible motives. Landmartian (talk) 16:59, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- Trolling is a art, sometimes a stealthy one. Not everyone recognizes trolling, and the "be nice, stamp out troll starvation" faction is well represented on this wiki. CamelCasePragmatist (talk) 15:23, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- If that were true, wouldn't people quietly think to themselves "It's best not to feed the troll"? Maybe that's what they're doing. Landmartian (talk) 15:09, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- What's the difference, if any, between a sea lion, as described there, and a troll? Landmartian (talk) 04:43, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- No, the sea lion does NOT have a point. Please understand why sealioning is bad. --Castaigne (talk) 15:54, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
- The sea lion has a point. Landmartian (talk) 01:50, 13 January 2015 (UTC)