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:::It's kind of funny because even Java and UCSD p-code have disassemblers. BANCstar, on the other hand, is a shining monument to misunderstanding your end users. [[User:EVDebs|EVDebs]] ([[User talk:EVDebs|talk]]) 15:23, 2 September 2010 (UTC) | :::It's kind of funny because even Java and UCSD p-code have disassemblers. BANCstar, on the other hand, is a shining monument to misunderstanding your end users. [[User:EVDebs|EVDebs]] ([[User talk:EVDebs|talk]]) 15:23, 2 September 2010 (UTC) | ||
::::So can you reveal what the example program actually ''does''? {{User:Phantom Hoover/sig}} 15:27, 2 September 2010 (UTC) | ::::So can you reveal what the example program actually ''does''? {{User:Phantom Hoover/sig}} 15:27, 2 September 2010 (UTC) | ||
| + | :::::No, Joe Loughry never sent me any reference material. Honestly, I suspect it's just a random chunk of source code from one of his old projects, so whatever it does it probably doesn't finish. [[User:EVDebs|EVDebs]] ([[User talk:EVDebs|talk]]) 15:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC) | ||
Revision as of 15:43, 2 September 2010
Welcome! Its great to have you here, I am sorry for nuking your open source article, it was great actually :). Hopefully I have atoned for my sin by helping get this project here rolling. I think you will find most of us here value wikipedia a lot and agree with its missions and goals (and many of us edit there). I am pushing the idea that RW should be complimentary to wikipedia, I am encouraging the meme that what we should offer is an article that people can come to after reading wikipedia and learn something new, see a new perspective or be engaged in a way that wikipedia can not because of its guidelines. I hope you will enjoy your time here.
Anyway, again welcome, and I am sure I will be bumping into you frequently as we go. tmtoulouse persecute 21:27, 15 July 2007 (CDT)
- Well, I for one welcome our new socialist overlord.--PalMD-Goatspeed! 21:40, 15 July 2007 (CDT)
- Thanks for the welcoming. I hope I'll have a few good things to contribute. (BTW, TMT, the only regret I have is that you caught me before I could add a few references -- I was totally going to go Coulter on the page and add a bunch of misleading links, just like the creationist articles, and I'm pretty sure I could have found a "reliable" source for at least 75% of what I said. At least you tried to make that cesspool live up to its own billing; too bad ASchlafly's so autocratic and paranoid.) EVDebs 23:31, 15 July 2007 (CDT)
- *sigh*, are you a front for the entire godless liberal conspiracy worldwide???? ..... if so, then welcome! You might see me around a bit, you socialist swine. --ηοξιμαχονγ 23:36, 15 July 2007 (CDT)
So, no kidding, EVDebs isn't your real name :-) ? Hahaha, Eugene Debs is a hilarious historical figure. Welcome, glad to have someone who's from a respectable site around here. As you can see, most of the rest of us are the dregs of the interwebs. Welcome, and hope you have fun!-αmεσ (!) 19:38, 16 July 2007 (CDT)
- Eugene Debs is awesome. But not as awesome as Huey Long. G
dlessLiberal 08:54, 3 September 2007 (CDT)
- Eugene Debs is awesome. But not as awesome as Huey Long. G
EVDebs
"does not consider scientific/rationalist POV to be inherently equivalent to NPOV"
- Context matters. For some articles, the historical/social science/political science POV is the NPOV. Heart♥GoldSwarm like a hive 00:51, 17 July 2007 (CDT)
- Indeed, thus the weasel word "inherently". The problem is that at Wikipedia, it isn't always the NPOV. EVDebs 00:55, 17 July 2007 (CDT)
- Agreed.Heart♥GoldSwarm like a hive 01:01, 17 July 2007 (CDT)
- Indeed, thus the weasel word "inherently". The problem is that at Wikipedia, it isn't always the NPOV. EVDebs 00:55, 17 July 2007 (CDT)
block
The reason for your block was random. Human agreed to make me sysop for 6 seconds, and you were just a random casualty. I also blocked three or four others. So no, I didn't really take issue with your name, and I am not really a sysop. Bohdan 00:53, 2 September 2007 (CDT)
- I just died laughing from reading your "welcome box". Bohdan is a hard-core commie and is on our side, except he hates socialists. Go figure. humanbe in 01:58, 2 September 2007 (CDT)
Sick Bastid
With all those "bible translation" UXBs. I'm waiting, nervously, for the N-word Bible UXB (care of Dave Chappelle?). Or not... humanbe in 01:56, 2 September 2007 (CDT)
Good Vibrations
I've played with your vibrator vibrations art - you might lije to play again. Susan Jayne Garlicktalk 09:42, 4 September 2007 (CDT)
Dreaded redlink
You've got a redlink on your userpage: singularity, might like to link it to Black hole? SJGsjg 21:24, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
Would you mind looking at an article for me?
I made an article on Zionism, and I was wondering if you would look over it for me. Since you're obviously very knowledgable in things pertaining to Judaism, more so than me, I'd like you to look at it and make sure I didn't accidently pass on any kinds of stupidities or accidentally make anything up. Researcher 22:32, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- Well, it could use a lot of cleanup and some references, but it's a great start. And I'm not that knowledgeable about Judaism, though maybe a bit more than most by virtue of having been a bit of a fanboy (I grew up Catholic and I'm now an atheist). I'll take a hack, though. EVDebs 22:43, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- I'd greatly appreciate it. I mostly work on this site from work, where I don't have time to do things really properly. And, when it comes to this, I was mostly working from the fuzzy understanding I've picked up from poli sci theory, rather than historical studies or Jewish studies. (I went through some phases of religious fanboyism as well as a youth--perhaps I shoudl write a page about Vodun at some point...) Researcher 22:49, 28 November 2007 (EST)
Move
I hope you get around to fixing all those double redirects you left behind when you moved Bible translations to Guide to Bible translations --Signed by Elassint the Great Hi! 11:08, 1 December 2007 (EST)
- I'm not sure exactly what you want me to do -- if I read the "what links here" page correctly on Bible translations, most of those were done when you merged all the individual translation articles into that one article. I took a couple of links out of Bible, but I wasn't responsible for the links in the other article on "kinds". EVDebs 14:37, 1 December 2007 (EST)
- "Double redirects" can be listed from "special pages". Just list 'em, see where they end up and fix them? Shouldn't take too long I hope. human
16:00, 1 December 2007 (EST)
- Thanks. --Signed by Elassint the Great Hi! 17:33, 1 December 2007 (EST)
- No, thank you (or whoever did) for catching them and making them go away! human
18:46, 1 December 2007 (EST)
- Wut r u talking about?!!!!!!!!!!! --Signed by Elassint the Great Hi! 18:48, 1 December 2007 (EST)
- Someone fixed them. human
18:51, 1 December 2007 (EST)
- Someone fixed them. human
- Wut r u talking about?!!!!!!!!!!! --Signed by Elassint the Great Hi! 18:48, 1 December 2007 (EST)
- No, thank you (or whoever did) for catching them and making them go away! human
- Thanks. --Signed by Elassint the Great Hi! 17:33, 1 December 2007 (EST)
- "Double redirects" can be listed from "special pages". Just list 'em, see where they end up and fix them? Shouldn't take too long I hope. human
Evening!
What on God's brown polluted earth are you doing up at this hour, editing away? --My cat is smarter than Andrew Schafly RA harass stalk 03:02, 6 December 2007 (EST)
- Chronic depression + chronic unemployment = strange sleep cycles. Even though I live on the East Coast I've been essentially on Pacific time for the last two years or so. (BTW, I'm not quite sure I remember what the afikomen is (isn't that the hidden matza?), but your username -- it is something that could ruin a Seder, yes?) EVDebs 03:29, 6 December 2007 (EST)
- Well, it ruins things only if cancer is a bad thing... --My cat is smarter than Andrew Schafly RA harass stalk 19:12, 6 December 2007 (EST)
- Haha, I'm almost on Hawaii time half the time. Whiel living in EST like you. human
19:25, 6 December 2007 (EST)
- I'm in EST, but constantly, um, awake, so I should really switch to Zulu. Yes, a radioactive afikomen would really ruin a seder. Might be cool tho.--PalMD-If it looks like a donut, eat it 20:05, 6 December 2007 (EST)
- I've been waiting a long time for an opportunity to inform others of this, but the color for the initials "RA" in my signature was chosen to reflect the "true" color of radiation (you can check pictures of the insides of working nuclear reactors to verify), as opposed to the green color supposed by pop culture (a fallacy largely spread by the Simpsons cartoon). Not that any of you care *sniffle*. --My cat is smarter than Andrew Schafly RA harass stalk 00:37, 14 December 2007 (EST)
- That's very Cherenkovian. As it happens, I heard somewhere that free electrons in solution are quite blue. EVDebs 00:40, 14 December 2007 (EST)
- I've been waiting a long time for an opportunity to inform others of this, but the color for the initials "RA" in my signature was chosen to reflect the "true" color of radiation (you can check pictures of the insides of working nuclear reactors to verify), as opposed to the green color supposed by pop culture (a fallacy largely spread by the Simpsons cartoon). Not that any of you care *sniffle*. --My cat is smarter than Andrew Schafly RA harass stalk 00:37, 14 December 2007 (EST)
- I'm in EST, but constantly, um, awake, so I should really switch to Zulu. Yes, a radioactive afikomen would really ruin a seder. Might be cool tho.--PalMD-If it looks like a donut, eat it 20:05, 6 December 2007 (EST)
- Haha, I'm almost on Hawaii time half the time. Whiel living in EST like you. human
- Well, it ruins things only if cancer is a bad thing... --My cat is smarter than Andrew Schafly RA harass stalk 19:12, 6 December 2007 (EST)
commenting out
hey, I saw what you did at chickenhawk - I think it makes more sense to cut and paste weird stuff like that to the talk page? otherwise it just vanishes... human
00:01, 13 December 2007 (EST)
- Sure, if you want. Personally, I think if it belongs anywhere it belongs on Bill Clinton, though. EVDebs 00:07, 13 December 2007 (EST)
- Hey, that would be fine. The only problem with commenting out via html is it sorta vanishes. Rather than being discussed, say, on the talk page. Just sayin', is all. I know you meant well. human
00:37, 13 December 2007 (EST)
- Hey, that would be fine. The only problem with commenting out via html is it sorta vanishes. Rather than being discussed, say, on the talk page. Just sayin', is all. I know you meant well. human
Michael Jackson Liberal
So we attack him even though he`s a liberal because on the whole he`s an idiot? Well maybe thats an American opinon based on American bias. The fact that he ended racism in music and MTV, was 1 of the first people in the 80`s to support Aids charities despite its taboo attachments from the conservative right, has given 300 million dollars to charity, is a friend of bill clinton, basically means he is a desent person outside of the media spotlight and is a very well known liberal. Realist2 16:50, 17 December 2007 (EST)
- I think you want Liberalpedia. We only do politics as it relates to rational thinking, and even from a liberal standpoint, people who support scammers like Geller do more to hurt liberalism than they help; they perpetuate stereotypes that liberals are soft of mind as well as soft of heart, which we simply don't need. EVDebs 20:08, 17 December 2007 (EST)
And not a child molester! No! Definitely not! 193.113.235.174 17:07, 17 December 2007 (EST)
- Well, as a matter of law he isn't. As a matter of fact, who knows. He's certainly an expert at incriminating himself enough to ruin his rep without getting convicted. EVDebs 20:08, 17 December 2007 (EST)
- I agree with the Debster on this one. The mention is only a "slander" of Jackson inasmuch as he gets taken in by Geller's woo. It illustrates Geller's hanger-on-ism without impugning anything about Jackson except his credulity. human
20:24, 17 December 2007 (EST)
- I agree with the Debster on this one. The mention is only a "slander" of Jackson inasmuch as he gets taken in by Geller's woo. It illustrates Geller's hanger-on-ism without impugning anything about Jackson except his credulity. human
Also in the edit summary you called me chris crocker, i know who this person is and i would like to no why you found it necessary to make this comment, was it ment to be an insult and if so why would I find it insulting? Please get back to me on this directly. Realist2 09:30, 18 December 2007 (EST)
- If you know who Chris Crocker is, you have a pretty good idea of what I was getting at. Basically the message is "lighten up". EVDebs 11:54, 18 December 2007 (EST)
- Yes hes the gay internet Britney fan who gets a hell of a lot of hastle of the conservative right. If your intention was to label me a homosexual by calling me chris Crocker (which I suspect it was) I would like you to know that it didn`t bother me. Realist2 15:18, 18 December 2007 (EST)
- I think rather than calling you a homosexual he was calling you an obsessed fan-boy who takes things too personally. Researcher 16:08, 18 December 2007 (EST)
- I wouldn't even say obsessed per se -- just incredibly over-the-top. And badly -- and willfully -- misinformed about the point of this site. EVDebs 16:21, 18 December 2007 (EST)
- I think rather than calling you a homosexual he was calling you an obsessed fan-boy who takes things too personally. Researcher 16:08, 18 December 2007 (EST)
Why have you reverted my edit on Mein Kampf ?
Dreadnought 11:32, 2 January 2008 (EST)
Damn you for being so productive!
Quite writing numerous useful articles, you're making the rest of us look bad! :-) --
Radioactive Misanthrope 05:14, 29 January 2008 (EST)
- Yes. EVDebs, you are clearly in violation of our 99/1 commandment. I expect to see more talk, talk, talk and less valuable contributions from you in the future. Please help us run this non-encyclopedic learning resource into the ground. Goatspeed. --AKjeldsenGodspeed! 06:51, 29 January 2008 (EST)
- I hate you all, and just for that I'm going to write like two more articles tonight just out of sheer spite. (You guys can contribute...) EVDebs 00:11, 30 January 2008 (EST)
Wifebeaters
I'm afraid I don't see the point of the article you just created. It's... it's about fashion for crying out loud. Not exactly relevant to RationalWiki's goals.
In my infallible, just, loving, magnanimous, perfect, wizened, and brilliant—did I mention I was humble, too?—opinion, it should be deleted. --
Radioactive Misanthrope 05:00, 30 January 2008 (EST)
- Shrug. I'm not attached to it -- I just filled in the blank because there was a red link. I'm inclined to think we should have some sort of article on domestic violence, but I'm not quite sure how to frame it. EVDebs 13:28, 30 January 2008 (EST)
- Well, wifebeaters is about the shirt, not domestic violence. And if we do make an article on domestic violence (and be "we" I mean you), it should probably be titled [[Domestic volence]]. --
Radioactive Misanthrope 14:07, 30 January 2008 (EST)
- PS Just because there is a red link to an article, doesn't mean the article should exist. Sometimes it is better to just remove the link. Or, if the link is meant as a joke, re-route it to a different but still relevant article that does exist. --
Radioactive Misanthrope 14:10, 30 January 2008 (EST)
- I think if we make the article mentioned above it should actually be called domestic violence. People are more likely to link to it then... human
14:14, 30 January 2008 (EST)
- Isn't that what I said? --
Radioactive Misanthrope 14:16, 30 January 2008 (EST)
- Yes, but you speled teh likned vesrion worng. human
14:24, 30 January 2008 (EST)
- I never spell anything wrong. I just make tyops. --
Radioactive Misanthrope 14:27, 30 January 2008 (EST)
- I never spell anything wrong. I just make tyops. --
- Yes, but you speled teh likned vesrion worng. human
- Isn't that what I said? --
- I think if we make the article mentioned above it should actually be called domestic violence. People are more likely to link to it then... human
- Well, wifebeaters is about the shirt, not domestic violence. And if we do make an article on domestic violence (and be "we" I mean you), it should probably be titled [[Domestic volence]]. --
Wondering if you can help
I am looking to get wiki software on my personal computer, but am at a loss for how to do this. Can you, or anyone else here, help? Thanks! Craig
- Try www.mediawiki.org. MediaWiki is what we use, what Wikipedia uses, and actually probably what most wikis use these days. They should have the system requirements on the website. EVDebs 14:28, 5 February 2008 (EST)
You're cruel..
Please, not the wedgey bit![1] - Icewedge 14:56, 23 March 2008 (EDT)
Reverts
We're actually replacing wp links with red ones at the moment, with the intention of writing the actual articles later. No reverting on sight. Bad EVDebs. Jellyfish! 19:11, 14 May 2008 (EDT)
Orgone
A one man act over at wp:orgone is driving me nuts. He has annoyed me enough the name calling has slipped out so I am taking a break. But any suggestions on what to do? tmtoulouse persecute 01:20, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
- Can you give us specific diffs, TrundleMouse, to make joining in the battle easier?
- The history of the article is now one giant edit war between me and him, at this point he has completly dismantled the article into a shell of itself. I am trying to focus on just getting pseudoscience into the lead. I have brought out 4 sources for it and he just reverts it every time. tmtoulouse persecute 01:28, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
- I think at this point you basically have two solutions -- meatpuppetry or RfC. I suggest going for the latter. Beyond that, I have no idea :-( EVDebs 01:36, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
- I put the article up at RfC and several other places for dispute resolution, gotten very little feedback, formal mediation might be possible but I am really not liking the guy....ah well. Thanks though. tmtoulouse persecute 01:38, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
- I think at this point you basically have two solutions -- meatpuppetry or RfC. I suggest going for the latter. Beyond that, I have no idea :-( EVDebs 01:36, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
- The history of the article is now one giant edit war between me and him, at this point he has completly dismantled the article into a shell of itself. I am trying to focus on just getting pseudoscience into the lead. I have brought out 4 sources for it and he just reverts it every time. tmtoulouse persecute 01:28, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
- You could always ask DrTorstenHenning for help. Apparently he has battled the nutjobs extensively on this very article. You may also want to summon the Rational Skeptics group on Wikipedia, whose goal is the same as yours.
Radioactive Misanthrope 01:53, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
- Wow, I didn't understand a word of it, but that sounded like smart advice. ħuman
02:00, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
- Bad link on RSg. ħuman
02:03, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
- Thanks Huw! I fixed it.
Radioactive Misanthrope 02:06, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
- Thank, RA (I hope). Trent, it looks like wikilawyer war, of the saddest kind. I can't meatpuppet for ya, (because I wouldn't know how!) but if I can figure out how to contribute I will. ħuman
02:17, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
- Trent, can you at least "bring it here"? (have you already?) ħuman
02:40, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
- Trent, can you at least "bring it here"? (have you already?) ħuman
- Thank, RA (I hope). Trent, it looks like wikilawyer war, of the saddest kind. I can't meatpuppet for ya, (because I wouldn't know how!) but if I can figure out how to contribute I will. ħuman
- Thanks Huw! I fixed it.
- Bad link on RSg. ħuman
- Wow, I didn't understand a word of it, but that sounded like smart advice. ħuman
Geez, everyone here chatting in my back yard, I feel like I ought to bust out the beer and a platter of goat kebabs. Huw, you'll need to bring salad. RA, go pick up some pita bread. Trent, can you get some chips? And can I request a bag of Stacy's Naked Pita Chips? I'm hopelessly addicted to those things. EVDebs 02:45, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
- I'm in, as advised, for party provisions. I'll also grab those Naked Chips, what the hell. Party at EVDebs place, y'all. Bring munchies & drinkies! ħuman
02:58, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
- That request is particularly humourous in light of the fact that I am sitting here, eating Stacy's Naked Pita Chips right now.
Radioactive Misanthrope 03:47, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
- That request is particularly humourous in light of the fact that I am sitting here, eating Stacy's Naked Pita Chips right now.
Phony skeptics
You say John Stossel is a "phony skeptic" and I was wondering how so. I'm not defending him, I'm just interested in what exactly makes a skeptic "phony". (Full disclosure: I already don't like him, but that's because he's a libertarian : ) )
Radioactive Misanthrope 02:04, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
- My personal definition of the term is "a denialist in skeptic's clothing". He's not quite in Steven Milloy territory, but he definitely tends to take his skepticism with a heavy dose of politics, which is a remarkably easy way to develop bad conclusions. He's not really about skepticism -- he's more about creating doubt. That's not science, it's PR. EVDebs 02:08, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
- Uh, I was hoping more for specific examples of stances he takes or of things he's done. Although "takes his skepticism with a heavy dose of politics" strikes me as also describing Penn and Teller.
Radioactive Misanthrope 02:11, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
- Ah. I would have to do a bit of research, as I can't recall any specifics off the top of my head (ISTR an incident involving lack of FDA approval of devices that were largely considered useless by doctors, but it may not have been him). And you're not wrong about Penn and Teller -- they've gotten called out a few times for producing bullshit of their own on Bullshit!. I think they've only recanted once, on secondhand smoke. EVDebs 02:28, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
- And actually, now that I think of it, he does a lot of very simplistic analysis when it comes to government waste -- long on loaded language and handwaves, short on actual information. Definitely denialist tactics. EVDebs 02:37, 15 June 2008 (EDT)
- Uh, I was hoping more for specific examples of stances he takes or of things he's done. Although "takes his skepticism with a heavy dose of politics" strikes me as also describing Penn and Teller.
- How have you decided he is denialist as opposed to the skeptic he claims to be, or that he is phony? Having read his book Give Me a Break , he seems pretty authentic to me. Everybody on TV comes off as phony, and many are, but i'll bet you'd come to the seem conclusion as i, were you to read just his autobiographical sketch (he was a bad stutterer) in that book. He didn't start out a skeptic; he won many awards (see photos in middle of book) for following the conventional wisdom in his televised pieces.
- -- RemBeau 14:13, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
- He may in fact be completely sincere; I don't think most people who espouse his positions are as whorish as, say, Steven Milloy. But that doesn't mean he's not a denialist, or that he doesn't take a lot of rather sketchy positions as gospel. I really think he's less about facts than principle, and those principles are pretty typically libertarian, which tends to put him at odds with a lot of empirical data on science and economics. EVDebs 15:22, 14 July 2008 (EDT)
- -- RemBeau 14:13, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
Coulter's fit
"[Ann Coulter] threw a "petite" hissy fit... on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno when she realized that "godless" isn't actually... insulting to most liberals, even the believing ones." —EVDebs[2]
Could provide a link to a video of this or something? I'd love to see her doing this.
Radioactive Misanthrope 03:32, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
- Wish I could. Unfortunately, the hissyfit in question was sufficiently petite that it was little more than a slightly overdramatic moment of cluelessness. Might be on YouTube somewhere, but I doubt it. EVDebs 10:09, 13 July 2008 (EDT)
- You're right, it's not on Youtube. I ascertained that it once was, but it was then taken down because NBC complained about copyright infringement.
Radioactive Misanthrope 17:41, 14 July 2008 (EDT)
- You're right, it's not on Youtube. I ascertained that it once was, but it was then taken down because NBC complained about copyright infringement.
Soooooo ?
Why is there no article on Eugene Debs here? Or am I missing something? Carptrash 19:50, 15 August 2008 (EDT)
- But sir, that would be vanity on his part!
Radioactive Misanthrope 20:07, 15 August 2008 (EDT)
- "Vanity, they name is . . . Eugene V. Debs"? Yes, I see your point. Carptrash 14:35, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
Chickenhawks
Would you care to justify your removal of this perfectly justified addition, given that Ronald Reagan was in the military (granted he made VD films) and my removal of him was reverted and the additional fact that Reagan was about as much a warmonger as Clinton was - and what the hell is with this "you'd have been RFCd on Wikipedia by now"? I suppose Wikipedia has turned into a completely cabal-run place where nobody is allowed to make good faith edits to NPOVify articles anymore if that is the case. If Clinton doesn't qualify, Reagan doesn't either - and I believe they both do. If Reagan does qualify, and I believe he does, so do both the Clintons, as do Bayh, Feinstein, and a whole bunch of other Democrats who voted for the Iraq War resolution. Or are you just another one of those who is only antiwar when it's a Republican in office, who turns prowar as soon as a Democrat is in the white house? Secret Squirrel 13:41, 21 August 2008 (EDT)
- You're working against consensus on a very messy issue and being a complete and utter monomaniacal tard about it. That's my justification, and I'm sticking to it. EVDebs 01:37, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
- This place isn't about consensus, it's about party line enforcement, which is why all the snarky lulz and snide tone in most of the articles. You should know that by now. Secret Squirrel 20:35, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
- Look. We have essay space for opinion pieces. Use it; don't start edit wars over articles. EVDebs 20:56, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
- The "Where's Clinton" article is in mainspace, not essay space. I find that article particularly offensive because it repeatedly lies about Clinton's position ("B) does NOT support the current wars" - bullshit; "Furthermore, Clinton isn't a member of the CURRENT administration running the CURRENT wars. This is modern politics, not ancient history." - the 1990s are ancient history how?), then hypocritically says "Trust us, if a Democrat were in office and sending our children overseas to die, we'd squawk" which is exactly what Clinton did multiple times during his tenure. Do they then admit that Clinton was indeed a Democrat in office sending our children overseas to die? No, they conclude this: "Where's Clinton? If you're read this far and still ask that question, send email to Where's Clinton@nhgazette.com and we'll be glad to explain why you're a moron." And you think that garbage should go in a new "source" space as if it somehow qualifies as citable source material. Secret Squirrel 21:15, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
- Look. We have essay space for opinion pieces. Use it; don't start edit wars over articles. EVDebs 20:56, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
- This place isn't about consensus, it's about party line enforcement, which is why all the snarky lulz and snide tone in most of the articles. You should know that by now. Secret Squirrel 20:35, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
Sorry for your loss
I'm terribly sorry, EVDebs, but I appear to have demoted you. My condolences; here is your bucket and mop.
Radioactive Misanthrope 13:05, 12 September 2008 (EDT)
- Aw crap. What the hell am I going to do with my vandal-busting superpowers? EVDebs 22:55, 12 September 2008 (EDT)
- You can cook a mean waffle with them. Try it.
Radioactive Misanthrope 20:22, 13 September 2008 (EDT)
- You can cook a mean waffle with them. Try it.
Objectivism
I see you got right on it. Thanks.
I do feel somewhat disappointed, though. I suppose I was hoping for a more substantial critique of it, rather than more snark.
Or am I hoping for too much from this site? : )
Radioactive Misanthrope 15:48, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
- I think part of the problem is that most of the good stuff is on the Ayn Rand page, but I see what you're getting at. At some point I'll see what I can do about writing up the Peikoff vs. everyone else schism -- there's a lot of info on that in the Non-Libertarian FAQ that really has only a bit to do with Rand. EVDebs 15:52, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
- *blinks* I have no idea what you're talking about. Link, please?
Radioactive Misanthrope 15:57, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
- There should be a link to the overall site on the bottom of libertarian. There's a fair amount of discussion about Rand, as you may expect, and at least some of it discusses Leonard Peikoff's psychotic boosterism of Rand at the expense of Objectivism as a whole. (There's actually a whole school of non-Randian objectivists, actually -- they see much merit in Rand's thinking, but are not exactly fans of She Herself. You might think of them as the Objectivist Freezone -- although the Rand Institute doesn't exhibit the sheer evil of Scientology, there are quite a few disturbing parallels, including mass purges of dissenters and legal squabbles over IP. It might help to visualize Rand as Jabba and Peikoff as Salacious Crumb.) EVDebs 20:03, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
- Thank you, Debs, despite the horrifying visual.
Radioactive Misanthrope 20:10, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
- Thank you, Debs, despite the horrifying visual.
- There should be a link to the overall site on the bottom of libertarian. There's a fair amount of discussion about Rand, as you may expect, and at least some of it discusses Leonard Peikoff's psychotic boosterism of Rand at the expense of Objectivism as a whole. (There's actually a whole school of non-Randian objectivists, actually -- they see much merit in Rand's thinking, but are not exactly fans of She Herself. You might think of them as the Objectivist Freezone -- although the Rand Institute doesn't exhibit the sheer evil of Scientology, there are quite a few disturbing parallels, including mass purges of dissenters and legal squabbles over IP. It might help to visualize Rand as Jabba and Peikoff as Salacious Crumb.) EVDebs 20:03, 14 September 2008 (EDT)
- *blinks* I have no idea what you're talking about. Link, please?
You're not dead!
Hooray for your first edit in forever!
Radioactive Misanthrope 01:46, 4 March 2009 (EST)
- Was just about to say similar.

and marmite 01:48, 4 March 2009 (EST)
- Your reappearance isn't anything to do with the Ayn Rand debate on WP?

and marmite 01:49, 4 March 2009 (EST)
- Nope, none at all. I just haven't been on RW in a while (been doing most of my Wikitation on TVTropes of late) and I wanted to come back and see if there was anything that I could help with. I'm in and out; I promise not to be a complete stranger though. EVDebs 01:57, 4 March 2009 (EST)
- Ah, another TVTropes addict! : )
Radioactive Misanthrope 02:02, 4 March 2009 (EST)
- Sorry then EVDebs, confusing you with someone else.

and marmite 02:04, 4 March 2009 (EST)
- Sorry then EVDebs, confusing you with someone else.
- Ah, another TVTropes addict! : )
- Nope, none at all. I just haven't been on RW in a while (been doing most of my Wikitation on TVTropes of late) and I wanted to come back and see if there was anything that I could help with. I'm in and out; I promise not to be a complete stranger though. EVDebs 01:57, 4 March 2009 (EST)
- Your reappearance isn't anything to do with the Ayn Rand debate on WP?
Oblique strategies
Yes!!!! More people should know about them. Totnesmartin 18:39, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Wanker
"That’s the problem with truth. The truth is relentless. It won’t leave you alone. It keeps creeping up on you from every side, showing you what’s really so. That can he annoying" [1]
Sorry to be such a wanker.
I thought your essay was good. I kind of thought that people there felt I was trying to promote God, but I wasn't.
- I call 'em like I see 'em. Frankly, whatever you were doing was indistinguishable from evangelism, albeit persistent if low-pressure. EVDebs 16:54, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- I have no desire to convert anyone, being unconverted. However if a necessary point is one which an evangelist would make I might very well see it and defend it. I don't care if the point is for or against, only that it's right or necessary. Tarantallegra 04:09, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
GIT R DONE
My abuses of power
You are drunk aren't you?
- Nope, just insane. And my 20mg a day of Celexa won't save you now MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!! EVDebs (talk) 02:21, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Have you seen this?
"Any questions?"
- "There's more than just faith involved..." Do not the Lutherans say otherwise?
ListenerXTalkerX 04:07, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, they do. As do most Protestant denominations. But agreement is not universal. EVDebs 23:49, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
you too
| MEMO Happy New Year, EVDebs. This is from Useful Mei. It is an appropriate time for festivities, like alcohol. Today try not to eat too much, or too little. |
You might be the only one awake to see this -- =w= 06:48, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
- Heh, not necessarily. Mountain time rolls over in five minutes, Pacific time has another hour, and I'm pretty sure we have editors from other parts of the world who will be getting up soon. EVDebs (talk) 06:55, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
Question for you sir
On your user page you say: "Wikipedia, in what I consider to be an unfortunate but fortunately mild infection of Compulsive Centrist Disorder, does not consider scientific/rationalist POV to be inherently equivalent to NPOV." How so? I'm not a WP user my self but I haven't seen any instances where they've put pseudoscience on equal footing with real science. Tetronian you're clueless 18:32, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- What it comes down to is that there is a great deal of debate as to whether a scientific POV is inherently a neutral POV. To anyone who's a regular here, that should be self-evident, but it doesn't work out that way in practice. Some of the WP articles are babysat by people who are quite clear supporters of antiscientific agendas (vaccine deniers, global warming deniers, and New Agers are frequent offenders), and it's rather hard to count on the WP power structure to take the scientific side. EVDebs (talk) 19:35, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- Interesting, I was not aware of this. But what about this? It seems like Wikipedia's policy on pseudoscience is pretty clear. Tetronian you're clueless 19:39, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- Huh. I have to admit it's been a while since I've done much heavy Wikipedia work. I wonder when they started that policy -- it's a big win for SPOV. EVDebs (talk) 19:41, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- I suppose it is possible for editors to take over articles by editing them constantly, but on the whole I think WP does a pretty good job with SPOV. Tetronian you're clueless 19:46, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- Huh. I have to admit it's been a while since I've done much heavy Wikipedia work. I wonder when they started that policy -- it's a big win for SPOV. EVDebs (talk) 19:41, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- Interesting, I was not aware of this. But what about this? It seems like Wikipedia's policy on pseudoscience is pretty clear. Tetronian you're clueless 19:39, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Hey
Nice to see you around again. Btw, Goonie might be in Maine (Scarborough) in a few weeks on business. You are in Taxachusetts, as I recall. Do you want to try to meet up if he does fly in to the ointment? ħuman
05:53, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
- Human is Goonie's womanly secretary. Glass ceiling be damned! Acei9 05:57, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
- I am sorry, Sirs, if I intruded on your conversation. Would you like cigars and glasses of brandy? ħuman
06:46, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
- I am sorry, Sirs, if I intruded on your conversation. Would you like cigars and glasses of brandy? ħuman
Googledämmerung
It now exists in one one place, in which this glorious quote is found:
“”The Wagner tubas are tuning up for Googledammerung: It’s the twilight of the bots.
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Lyra § talk 05:30, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
BANCStar
Was it you who made that page on it? Bastard wisest Hoover! 14:53, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- ...mmmmmmmaybe? EVDebs (talk) 15:14, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Well, it seems like a pretty nice starting point for an esoteric language, although I gather that the people who made it will bludgeon anyone who reveals anything about it to death. Bastard wisest Hoover! 15:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- It's kind of funny because even Java and UCSD p-code have disassemblers. BANCstar, on the other hand, is a shining monument to misunderstanding your end users. EVDebs (talk) 15:23, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- So can you reveal what the example program actually does? Bastard wisest Hoover! 15:27, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- No, Joe Loughry never sent me any reference material. Honestly, I suspect it's just a random chunk of source code from one of his old projects, so whatever it does it probably doesn't finish. EVDebs (talk) 15:43, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- So can you reveal what the example program actually does? Bastard wisest Hoover! 15:27, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- It's kind of funny because even Java and UCSD p-code have disassemblers. BANCstar, on the other hand, is a shining monument to misunderstanding your end users. EVDebs (talk) 15:23, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Well, it seems like a pretty nice starting point for an esoteric language, although I gather that the people who made it will bludgeon anyone who reveals anything about it to death. Bastard wisest Hoover! 15:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)