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[edit] Bloody Hell

Terry createsimg an article. That's the first edit I can remember him doing at CP other than to MPR in 5 years. Oldusgitus (talk) 15:47, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

What the fuck does white privilege have to do with abortion?--Tanis (talk) 16:37, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
Oh come on. You should know by now. Liberulzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Oldusgitus (talk) 18:51, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
His water on Europa and Ganymede is proof of the great flood, WTF.[1] I have no expertise in physics but if such jets of water plasma were hurled 1/2 billion miles through space surely Jupiter's gravity would attract all that water. And would the amount of energy needed to hurl millions of tons of matter that distance push the earth out of orbit, according to Newton's laws?--Mercian (talk) 23:54, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
... it's just so dumb it hurts Ruddager (talk) 03:59, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Even better, Terry implies (in a comment) that all water in the universe came from the supply God created for us. Those Noah's Flood Comets could escape the solar system and account for any water found in other galaxies. But he admits he not as certain about that as he is that all water in our solar system was ejaculated on that fine spring day in 2348 BC. Whoover (talk) 08:57, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
BTW, does anybody know whether their thesis is that the water found on these other bodies (and presumably formerly on Mars) was aimed in their directions, or is just the water that happened upon them from a uniform spherical distribution? If it's the former, why couldn't God just make water where he wanted it? And if it's the latter, wouldn't that involve really a lot of water? Whoover (talk) 09:06, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
If you really want to know and you have sufficient brain cells to accept the number that will inevitably die from reading this crap then this is a place to start. But I warn you, the stupid burns very hot on there. Oldusgitus (talk) 12:00, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
It's this strange mix of magic and science that you often see with Creationists. They'll try to explain these phenomena with science that fits with their historical narrative. But anything that's too improbable (i.e. all of it) can simply be magicked into reality. Millions of tones of water affecting earth's orbit? He's God, duh. Ajkgordon (talk) 09:53, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
I challenged Terry once about why he needs to try and insert "naturalistic" explanations in between the supernatural stuff; why not just go for God did it all and be done with it. His answer: economy of miracles. Redchuck.gif ГенгисIs the Pope a Catholic? Moderator 22:01, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
There are about 150,000,000 square arcminutes in the sky. Let's say Jupiter commands about one. Ganymede has more water than the earth. It got its water from the great ejaculation via "splash" (Terry's term in a comment). Let's say 1% of the water that sprayed the Jupiter system splashed on Ganymede. That means the hydroplate event blew 15 billion times as much water into space as the earth now contains. The earth contains about 350 million cubic miles of water. Let's say roughly 5 quintillion cubic miles of water were ejected. That's greater than the volume of the sun. Works for me. Whoover (talk) 17:23, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Walt Brown and TH have an intuitive (i.e. totally wrong) idea of how objects behave in space. In Brown's cosmology, the Earth sprays all this stuff out in more-or-less a flat disk, like the sparks from a Catherine wheel. The flying debris clumps itself together under mutual gravity, with big swarms of rock, ice, and vapor forming discrete clouds many times the size of Earth, but diffuse. The huge surface area of these 'clouds', which are spinning and gravitationally bound, allows them to act like solar sails and get pushed outward. Also, the warm sunward side of the clouds lose more gas molecules to space than the cool outward sides, and the spinning of the clouds means that this loss is vectored somewhat so that the clouds get a net velocity boost as well, meaning that they can climb to higher orbits - even out to beyond Neptune. These giant clouds pulled themselves together right sharpish to form all the asteroids and comets, some of the moons of the gas giant planets, Pluto and the other transneptunian objects, and stuff to be named later. On the other hand, they dismiss the nebula hypothesis of planetary formation as nonsense. In other words, their spaceships bank into swooping turns as the rudders bite into the æther, and everything looks like it was rotoscoped from WWII gun camera footage. George Clooney lets go of his tether so his weight won't pull Sandra Bullock off her perch. Barbicane, Nicholl, and Ardan experience normal Earth gravity on their trip to the Moon until they reach the 'neutral point' where Moon gravity takes over. That sort of thing. Seriously, they argue that you don't feel gravity from a planet until the planet is closer to the Sun than you, and even then the only pull is in the direction of the barycenter of the solar system. They're people of the land; the common clay of the New West. You know... Morons.--Martin Arrowsmith (talk) 20:08, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Just wow! So God works through bad science fiction. Solar winds are the dilithium crystals. Once the ocean express reaches the right orbital distance, it just waits to be swept up by Jupiter and splash where needed. In a few thousand years. So no aim required. But an eyespot could never evolve. Whoover (talk) 20:36, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Glenn Beck quits the Republican Party.

Because of their inaction in standing against Obamacare and immigration. Because he is a RINO.[2]--Mercian (talk) 17:39, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Back again!

TAR has returned again! Let the chaos ensue! AyzmoCheers 20:35, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Most Liberal American Cities is pretty good. It's (by TAR's admission) largely a list of blighted inner cities that are mainly black after white flight. There's no sense of how they're ranked. Detroit is America's most liberal city. Inglewood, CA (something like 50% black) is number 6. He added Hollywood at 28 and LA at 29 in a late edit, realizing that you've got to have Hollywood and LA. He seems to be pulling the cities and their ranks out of his ass. Page through the history to see what I mean. Whoover (talk) 23:53, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
You keep doing you, TAR. Shakedangle (talk) 15:02, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
You know, I haven't been hear all that long, a couple months, so I haven't been following and documenting every last instance of stupidity there, but I simply cannot believe that someone who writes something like this "Vote with your feet (strategic relocation) from an Unfree state to a Free state to escape the leftist Welfare state - Nanny state - progressive Police state" isn't a parodist. Alsto003 (talk) 12:58, 30 March 2015 (UTC) Alex

[edit] Anyone fancy trolling Andy

With this. Oldusgitus (talk) 10:37, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Considering a black man to play James Bond is racist.

[3]How the f**k does this man's mind work?--Mercian (talk) 17:21, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

It doesn't work. It sees something and decides 'librulzzzzzzzzz' therefore tries to find an angle to attack it. And everybody knows that no blacks ever became members or employees of Her Majesties Security Services. Oldusgitus (talk) 18:12, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
Sounds like the old "any affirmative action in support of blacks = anti-white racism" shtick. 141.134.75.236 (talk) 19:37, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
It's not even that. To Andy, racism is what people of other races and ideologies do. Because it's bad. ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 19:41, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
Affirmative action? Weren't they the shitheads, who claimed, that Obama was voted because of "affirmative action" or some such hokum?--Arisboch (talk) 19:42, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
There should still be an article titled "Affirmative action president" on CP. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 19:44, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
"Third, James Bond is more historical than fictional." BWHAHAHAHAHAHA! --Night Jaguar (talk) 21:56, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
^ Okay, haven't read the books, but we're talking about the movies here. Maybe the character was inspired by real events, but clearly the films haven't been constrained by historical realism (or even believability, for that matter). If you're okay with Bond killing a black dude by turning him into a balloon that pops, but not with Bond himself being black, well, I think I see your real problem. --Night Jaguar (talk) 22:11, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

I look forward to seeing Karajou whining that it's racist for Jesus to be portrayed with pale skin and blond hair - and he really was a historical person (probably). Cardinal Fang (talk) 22:31, 30 March 2015 UTC)

You can't just make him black! What about continuity? James Bond is an English Scottish Irish Australian famous secret agent who is currently younger than his own career. But he's definitely not black. I believe Felix or whatever he's called, the occasional CIA character, might have changed colour at some point, but that's completely different. Fonzie (talk) 22:42, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
M also changed genders in the Bond movies, but hey. PacWalker 22:45, 30 March 2015 (UTC)Struck per London Grump below. PacWalker 00:48, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
This isn't the first time the casting of Idris Elba has caused an uproar (though the Bond thing seems speculative at this point). White supremacists boycotted Thor because Elba played the Norse god Heimdall. Just something to keep in mind. --Night Jaguar (talk) 00:02, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
M is a title, not a person. Like C in the real MI6. London Grump (talk) 00:19, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
For extra Lulz you can concede defeat to him and say that Jesus was indeed blonde— by linking to this Wikipedia article[wp]. Alsto003 (talk) 00:14, 31 March 2015 (UTC) Alex
Or use a redirect service and slide him over to ours. Herr FuzzyKatzenPotato (talk/stalk) 00:32, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Idris Elba is no more James Bond than Michael Caine is. Bond went to Eton and Fettes. He is cut from the same cloth as Ian Fleming and Ewan Montagu's special ops section, the section that looked down on the sublimely well connected Dennis Wheatley as "trade". Then again, there's even more denial about class than there is about race. London Grump (talk) 20:56, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

in that case idris is no less James bond than Sean Connery. AMassiveGay (talk) 22:07, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
I personally found it annoying that absolutely none of the actors who have played Felix Leiter even remotely resemble Fleming's description, although I give them a pass on the one-arm part. Although I'm sure there are plenty of people who don't want to see a black James Bond out of racism, it's certainly a reasonable point of view that films should be as faithful to the character's description as possible; conflating the two isn't helpful, although I noticed that the link above doesn't provide any examples of that actually occurring. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 23:12, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
When I first read Dune, for no particular reason, I pictured Duncan Idaho as a Black guy, and that's stuck with me for more than 30 years. So both the 1980s movie and the 1990s mini-series let me down a bit because my favorite character didn't look right. That said, the movies are not the books, and I see zero reason why a film-maker has any obligation to faithfully reprroduce every, or any, aspect of a book that she is turning into a film. It's her project, her interpretation, her vision. If you want things to be "just like the book," there's a book for you to read. There are many, mny reasons I'd love to see Elba as Bond. Some of them have to do with the politics of race and representation. Some have to do with the fact he's a great actor. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 00:43, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Isn't it a well-known belief amongst the fans that there's a dozen different people who get their names changed to "James Bond" when the previous 007 retires? The movies ignored that theory a lot, though, preferring a floating timeline where everyone but Bond can change sex whenever. You'd expect someone to consider "oh, they've confirmed my 30-year suspicions" long before declaring it racism.-- Forerunner (talk) 01:32, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
I don't want to overstate my previous comment on Leiter, as long as the film is done well such things ultimately very minor and easily forgotten while actually watching it. Just in the Bond series I've seen it work both ways; From Russia With Love and Live and Let Die are two of my favorites, with the former being much closer to the book than the latter. As to the specific matter at hand, I think Craig is doing just fine and that it's not worth fixing that which isn't broken. I'll worry about the next Bond when he decides he's finished. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 01:35, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
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