Conservapedia talk:World History Lecture One

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This is all very informative and everything, but why do we have it? Is it part of some long-term plan?--Bobbing up 09:41, 22 July 2008 (EDT)

See Conservapedia_Talk:What_is_going_on_at_CP?#Summer_project_proposal.3F. Jollyfish.gifGenghisOur ignorance is God; what we know is science. 09:47, 22 July 2008 (EDT)
Thanks Genghis. I'd not been reading that.--Bobbing up 09:56, 22 July 2008 (EDT)
Ok, I'd missed this on thier site. This is going to be worse than US History Revisionism, isn't it. I'm scared. But like a bad horror movie, I *must* watch. By the by, THIS MAN'S (boy's) WRITING STYLE SUCKS MONKEY BONES!!!!!!--WaitingforGodot 09:51, 22 July 2008 (EDT)
Be careful. It's bad for your health. --AKjeldsenCum dissensie 09:53, 22 July 2008 (EDT)
By the way, Error 1: Calculus was not invented by the English unless by "invent" you mean "I really need to make something for our english speakers, so I'll ignore all the work done by the ancients in Greece and Egypt, and by the Japanese and Chinese 100 years before my English - oh, an by Liebnitz (sp?) at the same time as the English". oh the revisionism. As for health, well he's already said that if i don't have a baby and be a good little house frau, i'm going to die of breast cancer... so no worries!--WaitingforGodot 09:56, 22 July 2008 (EDT)
Good point. You might as well live life on the edge, then.
Actually, I don't think the individual errors and silly conclusions are the worst part of this, although God knows there are plenty of both. Rather, it's the complete lack of even an attempt to structure this in a meaningful way. It's basically a bunch of information strung together without any kind of overview or anything. Plus of course the lack of references. That's pretty fatal. --AKjeldsenCum dissensie 10:05, 22 July 2008 (EDT)
Who needs references when you have the TRUTH?--Bobbing up 10:14, 22 July 2008 (EDT)
That would be TruthTM. tmtoulouse heckle 10:15, 22 July 2008 (EDT)
Ah yes, of course. How liberal of me. --AKjeldsenCum dissensie 10:19, 22 July 2008 (EDT)

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[edit] American history

Are we getting the American History lectures as well? tmtoulouse heckle 10:06, 22 July 2008 (EDT)

OK I'll do those as well. Jollyfish.gifGenghisOur ignorance is God; what we know is science. 10:36, 22 July 2008 (EDT)
Make sure to provide plenty of Asprin, and perhaps a warning that "read this site at your own risk. Information may cause reader to vomit, bang heads on tables, or search for weapons of mass destruction". --WaitingforGodot 10:47, 22 July 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Populations

  • "We can also extrapolate backwards from modern populations to estimate that only about 300 million people existed in the world at the time of Christ, and extrapolating backwards further yields only one family in the year 3300 B.C."

This can't be true by simple exponential growth, especially given that the Great Flood wiped out all but ?? people. ref: [1] Sterilesnore! 10:20, 22 July 2008 (EDT)

Various plagues and wars would mess things up as well. You'd need to pull some numbers out of the air for family size and infant mortality as well.--Bobbing up 10:25, 22 July 2008 (EDT)

The YEC perspective: [2] Sterilesnore! 10:26, 22 July 2008 (EDT)

That's called "conservative math". --WaitingforGodot 10:28, 22 July 2008 (EDT)

That YEC link makes Andy look sensible.--Bobbing up 10:30, 22 July 2008 (EDT)

And there's wikipedia's perspective. Sterilesnore! 10:31, 22 July 2008 (EDT)

Actually, my fav quote: "Egypt’s complex, picture-based language probably hindered its growth. The picture-based language was not as easy to use as the alphabet-based Phoenician language later adopted by the Greeks and Romans. How would one express Christian concepts like salvation, faith, hope and redemption? It seems impossible." How arrogant! Sterilesnore! 11:20, 22 July 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Wiki syntax problem?

The collapse notes have a "3" nested in several braces in them which is showing up raw. I'm not sure what they're supposed to be. Some sort of template? Abadidea (talk)

Not in my browser they don't. Screenshot? Pippa (talk) 20:44, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
I just fixed it. It was a problem with the recently added collapsed comments. --Sid (talk) 20:52, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Formatting

Hi Wikians; I'm having a problem adding a side-by-side comment to Andy's little tirade about dating systems, and also his table of phonetic civilisations. I've tried fiddling with the relevant punctuation marks, but it doesn't work. Any suggestions? Thanks! --Ironclad (talk) 22:24, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Judaism as old as Hinduism?

No. Judaism is much much younger. So young in fact, that I'd say the earliest date you can give for it 167BCE, after the Maccabbean uprising, that had more to do with dynastic control after the fracturing of Alexander the Great's empire that cultural or religious differences (see the work of Thomas L Thompson, Niels Peter Lemche, Keith Whitelam, Tomas Verenna, Ingrid Hjelm etc).Scherben 05:17, 2 December 2011 (UTC)scherben

uh huh... and your definition of judaism is...? Because theres good enough evidence of it being around before the maccabbean revolt. --il'Dictator Mikal (talk) 05:21, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Scherben, you have perhaps not heard of a character called Moses, or the several books traditionally credited to him? Because those were the basis of the religion that provided the pretext for the Maccabaean revolt. Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX 05:34, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

If Moses was a historical person I'll eat my own hat, to coin a stupid phrase. The Biblical texts were compiled in their current forms until the mid 2nd Century BCE. The Maccabeans were quite probably a Taleban-like sect who rallied around the slogan YHWH Alone; providing the roots for modern day Judaism.Scherben 14:59, 2 December 2011 (UTC)Scherben

[edit] Two minor problems

Under science and linguistics. Firstly what Andy wrote: "The picture-based language was not as easy to use as the alphabet-based Phoenician language later adopted by the Greeks and Romans. How would one express Christian concepts like salvation, faith, hope and redemption? It seems impossible." is indeed moronic but the first part while slightly inaccurate is generally considered true. Logo-graphic derived writing systems are generally considered more difficult to learn than alphabetic or syllabic based writing systems. That is why the Ancient Egyptian Writing System and Cuneiform died out and it is why the Communists in China toyed with the idea of implementing Romanization for Mandarin. There is a reason why ancient Egypt had entire caste of people designated as being Scribes. Secondly I should point out that the Christian burned the library in the Serapeum, which despite what Gibbon seemed to think, was not actually the Great Library of Alexandria. Hence it is inappropriate to say "the" library in Alexandria. Alsto003 (talk) 22:02, 30 September 2014 (UTC) Alex

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