Essay talk:Worldview of ISIS jihadis

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Wow. Initially I thought 5 or 6 paragraphs would do, but this is what its become. There's more to add and tweak, but it's essentially ready for primetime. nobsIt all depends what ISIS is. 17:12, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Nice work. ;) 141.134.75.236 (talk) 03:57, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
Great work but your Salafi piece is a bit biased. Think of the Salafi as Amish Muslims, they don't really have much interests in politics outside of Egypt and Saudi Arabia.- (talk) 23:26, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
I am more inclined to see the IbadiWikipedia, or even the ZahiriWikipedia Muslims as being like the Amish (even if neither of these groups are strictly pacifist like the Amish, who are basically just conservative funny dressed German speaking Quakers). The Salafists don't really appear that way to westerners such as myself (though that may just be because the only Salafists westerners are aware of are the more political Salafists). Alsto003 (talk) 19:59, 3 February 2015 (UTC) Alex
Amish are a separatist movement (something like the American Nation of Islam); Salafism is very mainstream today and among its goals is proselytization. nobsISIS is a thorn in the world's ass and will be removed. 13:42, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
A very informative essay and an interesting read. This kind of 'birds eye view' analysis of the jihadi movement is something the mainstream media never seems to give. Thanks for the effort, MrSmith (InsertOpinion) (talk) 05:55, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I think I learned a lot. However, the Salafi section is indeed a bit biased. Sure, the Salafis are far from "nice", but Islam itself isn't any more or less compatible with Democracy than Christianity is. The early versions of Christianity make DAESH look tolerant by comparison, yet most "Christian" nations are fairly democratic. The religion is whatever the people want it to be, the Koran says whatever the people reading it want it to say.

Thank you. Well, the Salafi section isn't quite finished yet. Also, Iran looks relatively harmless, so some revisions are in the offing. nobsISIS is a thorn in the world's ass and will be removed. 02:02, 3 February 2015 (UTC)