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[edit] Guns

If you knew anything about psychiatry you would know that we can now identify those with a brain abnormality very easily via fMRI scans. It is also a genetic trait which can be measured scientifically and we have the ability to genetically profile everyone. Simply scan every person and then ban those who fail the test from owning any guns. It is such an obvious solution but probably not politically correct because blacks commit the most murders. 81.101.244.221 (talk) 01:20, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Like whoah man. Who would pay for that dude? Just chill. Dudeman (talk) 01:24, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
It would be a lot cheaper than keeping the blacks in prison which is a drain on federal expenses and puts the US into a whole lot of debt which we cannot afford. 81.101.244.221 (talk) 01:28, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
I don't want none of your machinamajigs going near my head! --Mikal 01:40, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Well you are one of those that helped me change my mind and to adopt the views I now take. Don't forsake me now... 81.101.244.221 (talk) 01:43, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
As Robert Hare has shown, psychopathy can be revealed by a brain scan and is proven by genetic testing. Why don't we just smother these criminals at birth? Problem solved. 81.101.244.221 (talk) 01:51, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Paging Big brother... --108.180.91.182 (talk) 02:08, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

[edit] Definition of Religion

I have noticed that the definition of religion on this site is synonymous with Judeo/Christian/Islamic viewpoints and thus any criticism here includes secular belief systems such as Buddhism and Taoism. As a Discordian with a special interest in Taoism, I find this predominantly USA view disconcerting. Any idea on how to rectify this situation? — Unsigned, by: Penguin face / talk / contribs

Go write stuff on them. Tytalk 17:59, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
I am not allowed to. Also Taoism is ultimately ineffable: "The Tao that can be told is not the eternal Tao." — Unsigned, by: Penguin face / talk / contribs
Does the edit button mysteriously not function for you? Tytalk 18:06, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Ty, are you aware that that you are talking to a Dick? Redchuck.gif ГенгисIs the Pope a Catholic?Moderator 18:23, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Facepalm.png Tytalk 18:25, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
This is why we should block IPs--"Shut up, Brx." 18:30, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) The viewpoint that Eastern faiths are somehow not religions like Western faiths is embarrassingly ignorant. The same belief in the supernatural has been prevalent across the world. Unless of course you want to ignore stuff like Yin and Yang, Brahm, devatas, reincarnation, and kami in order to suit your colonialist worldview.--"Shut up, Brx." 18:26, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
It's equally amusing, Brx, when they bring out Taoism with such simplistic "the tao that can be told..." lines. Like you suggest, it's a very "new agey, western" view of eastern religions. Green mowse.pngGodot She was a venus demilo in her sister's jeans 18:32, 20 January 2013 (UTC)(EC)
What is supernatural about the Tao Te Ching? The main tenet of Taoism.— Unsigned, by: Penguin face / talk / contribs
Nothing, it is a text. but if you want to get into what is religious about Taoist Buddhism, or any other buddhism, ask away.Green mowse.pngGodot She was a venus demilo in her sister's jeans 18:32, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Lao Tzu would have laughed in the face of Buddha. So yeh.. I ask. And your silence is the most profound answer you can offer. — Unsigned, by: Penguin face / talk / contribs
Troll. lol. Why do you think the authors of the Tao would have "laughed in the face of buddha?" Taoism is replete with gods and goddesses, which are vital to China and later Japan's views of divinity, non divinity god head, and religion. Specifically, Taoism believes in possession - and the associated excorcisms. Taoist diviners are common place, today and in the ancient world, and are generally regarded as in connection to the non natural world. Ancestors hold power - they are not just "honored", but worshped, prayed to, and expeted to intervene in the lives of the living. What is traditionally rendered in english as "The Eight Immortals", be they spirits, gods, or some "other", are, still, prayed to, and expected to intervene in the daily lives of the living. In Taoist writings, virtually all of the currently known goddesses (the Changee (moon), the earth, Shangdi, Pangu (creator)) are commonly referenced. But clearly, those aren't religious, "as westerners think of it", hum?Green mowse.pngGodot She was a venus demilo in her sister's jeans 19:29, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Wait a minute, what exactly is stopping you from editing the articles in question?--Just relax, and stay funny (talk) 19:31, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Oh! Don't you remember your 2 year block on me? Dick. helloSailor 19:39, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
The basic text/tenet of Taoism is the Tao Te Ching. (I prefer the Arthur Waley translation).Where do you get all this other stuff from? Of course the ideas of the 'texts' may get corrupted by superstitious types but please cite your sources. helloSailor 19:38, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
One, translations suck. if you really want to tell the entire Chinese Buddhist world it's wrong in what it does each and every day, might as well read the chinese. As for "superstition" that "corrupted" the Tao, that's a very very western 'i know more than you natives' attitude. The easliest of texts writing on and about the tao all are seeped in Chinese religion of the day. the Tao is part of that entire system. it has creation mythology, it facilitates and enhances the ancestral worship of hte day, etc. only western thinkers seem to want it to be some kind of pure secular religion. Green mowse.pngGodot She was a venus demilo in her sister's jeans 00:03, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

[edit] The only real question is

− How far does one restrict individual liberty for the social good. helloSailor 20:08, 20 January 2013

Dirk Steele (talk) 20:32, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

[edit] Unitarian Universalism

I agree with this rollback. Buddhism, Taoism etc have no need for a 'God' as defined by Christianity, Judaism and Islam. The definition of what a 'religion' actually is is open to interpretation. I can be an atheist Zen Buddhist for example... See above comments...a la... moved to 'Dirk Steele said something' censorship action. Dirk Steele (talk) 12:17, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

[edit] The Mind

The mind is not a thing! It is a metaphor. It cannot be diseased. Basic science. One can have a brain disease but not a mind disease! Ha! You retards. 81.100.116.166 (talk) 04:10, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

How is a brain disease diagnosed and treated? How is a mind disease diagnosed and treated? Spot the difference. Science must rule. Not superstition. 81.100.116.166 (talk) 04:16, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Mental Health? What does that even mean? A rational debate is required. 81.100.116.166 (talk) 04:18, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Are you drunk? Stoned? What are you even trying to say? ShapeshiftingLizard ~▲~ hear me roar ~▲~ 04:25, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
No. Neither. Yet. I am trying to point out that your (RW) view on Thomas Szasz is irrational, superstitious and unscientific. My attempts to change have been met with ridicule. 81.100.116.166 (talk) 04:31, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
I would like to contribute more to RW. My interests range from extended phenotypes and niche construction as well as quantum mechanics and tons of scientific stuff. But I will not until RW takes a true rational scientific view. A la Popper... etc. 81.100.116.166 (talk) 04:35, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
But of course, every statement I make to this end causes me to be banned because it does not accord with this site's ideology... which is not rational? Dirk rules ok. 81.100.116.166 (talk) 04:38, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
I thought this was supposed to be RATIONALWiki!
But seriously, what is wrong with the concept of mental illnesses? The mind is an actual thing, and is actually a physical object. It can be ill, just like any other body part. You were probably banned because your arguments sound rather trollish. ShapeshiftingLizard ~▲~ hear me roar ~▲~ 04:57, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
The mind is a thing? A physical object? Can you hold it in your hand? Do not show your stupidity in front of so many. Thanks. 81.100.116.166 (talk) 05:00, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Why ban me? Talking in the saloon bar? Why? How pathetic. I can use any IP address I want... just to see your censorship. Ha! 88.106.85.15 (talk) 05:10, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
I see you found a free Wi-fi signal Dirk. Don't you have any offs to fuck? --Revolverman (talk) 05:12, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
I raise a valid question. Is your dogma sacrosanct? This site is worse than the fuckin creationists for censorship!!!! I can use any IP address I choose. 88.106.85.15 (talk) 05:16, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
You call yourselves RationalWiki yet you subscribe to an extreme ideology. So ban me again. Ha! Pathetic. So pathetic. 88.106.85.15 (talk) 05:23, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
I doubt you have the time to listen..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY3c-8hIr90

88.106.85.15 (talk) 05:32, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Welcome back, Dirk. It's been a while. You're still wrong about mental illness, but it's nice to see you. RachelW (talk) 15:11, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
As someone suffering from mental illness, you have no damned idea what you're talking about. Sorry to feed the troll folks.. Jrock1203 (talk) 13:30, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
Do you know me and my experiences? As someone who has suffered from Creationism you have no damned idea what you are talking about? Where have you left your intellect? Ha! Sorry to feed the idiots. 78.147.161.127 (talk) 08:23, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
It is so simple. One can have a disease of the brain. Diagnosed by scans, MRI, and under the microscope etc. Medical science. A disease of the mind is pseudo-science. Diagnosed by opinion only (DSM). What is it about science you do not understand? 78.147.161.127 (talk) 08:35, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

[edit] What the fuck?

Can you blame me for being a determinist? Yes or no? 78.147.164.89 (talk) 21:18, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Dirk Steele made me do this.... against my better volition. 78.147.164.89 (talk) 21:24, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
I used to think I was a combatulist. 78.147.164.89 (talk) 21:30, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
I await... with baited breath.. a rational answer.78.147.164.89 (talk) 21:34, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
Is it inevitable that I make this statement? Although I did not mean to...78.147.164.89 (talk) 21:40, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
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