Fun talk:Greatest songs, liberal and conservative

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[edit] Raison d'etre

Instead of banning the conservative list and keeping the liberal one, let's do this. TheoryOfPractice (talk) 01:08, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Designators

This page should make the proper distinction between "liberal" and "left-wing." The erroneous conflation thereof has been a great advantage to extremists; first Reds quite transparently pretending to be "liberals," then right-wingers pretending that liberals were Reds. For example, this list could be used to say that liberals glorify fire and slaughter and hate their country. Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX 05:31, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Lol, get over it already, it's a "fun" page. ħumanUser talk:Human 06:57, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
What i dislike about this page is that these arent liberal songs. This represents only American Liberalism, and that is basicly social democratic left.. whilest in the Netherlands and Europe liberalism is centre-right to right-wing. examples; Classicial Liberalism --Brad1201 (talk) 08:24, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Direct from the tubes to you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG6taS9R1KM
Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 18:56, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

I cringed. You suck. Nutty Roux100x100 anarchy symbol.svgUser:Nutty Roux/sigtalk 19:14, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
What's not to resemble about it? That was A Mighty Wind in its purest form. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 19:22, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
Sound's cute.Civic Cat (talk) 14:49, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

[edit] June 2010

I'd like to do some major edits here. I doubt I'll delete things; but rather create a few new sub-headings, such as "not so 'greatest' "--or are there any defenders for all of the +10 Clash songs and Anal Cunt? Also, is there some sort of order here that I'm not seeing, because the listings don't seem to have an alphabetical order, chronological order, or order by genre.Civic Cat (talk) 14:49, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Johnny Cash?

What was so liberal about Johnny Cash? Last I checked, he was conservative like any good old country singer --Elvis is King (talk) 06:37, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Which is, of course, why he recorded "What Is Truth". Secret Squirrel (talk) 04:23, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Where does 'O Christmas Tree' #and its tune# fit into this list? ('Wide-eyed innocence') 171.33.222.26 (talk) 16:09, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

[edit] Liberal bullshit

If anything this list proves what a load of hogwash the American liberal-conservative dichotomy is. A lot of these are not "liberals". And they're not conservatives either.-Albannach (talk) 04:15, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

[edit] Where...

... does 'Ode to Joy' fit? 171.33.222.26 (talk) 14:21, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

[edit] what I did late December 2013

This last edit I just did on the list was perhaps my biggest edit yet on RW. I just might have covered all the bases, but it's likely that I haven't. Definitely no one should feel slighted if I deleted anything of theirs without good reason—most/all of my deletions are listed below so you can put 'em right back in, and sorry if I messed up anyone's presentation. I intend to go over this page and its previous edit to correct any mistakes be they others' or mine. So here's an account of most if not all that I did.

  1. added the following headings and sub-headings:
    Censorship and Free Speech, Decriminalization/legalization, Economics, Feminism, Notable artists/groups, The Beatles, Midnight Oil, Dead Kennedys, System of a Down, Privacy and attacks on it, More liberal than leftist, fetish, LGBTQI2S, masturbation, Addiction, Intoxication, and better living through chemistry, alcohol, other drugs, songs that actually celebrate rationality, snarky artists/groups, snarky interpretation, real deal (if at times extremist), a few songs on the Conservapedia list, a few songs on both CP and RW, and Video greatly adds to it (and perhaps a few others)
  2. got rid of the word "special" in the categories and put such categories under "Notable artists/groups"
  3. more or less put the categories in alphabetical order
  4. did the same with the song listings

Civic CatTalk to Civic Cat 21:43, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

[edit] teh spelin eror korekd

Not all corrected as there were likely some intentional errors. I generally corrected those that stuck out. Apologies in advance to fellow Commonwealth RationalWikians for any hated annoying Americanism's: I gotta get a British dictionary lexicon.

  1. "to to" into "to"
  2. Acheivement into Achievement
  3. admistering into administering
  4. Amimals into Animals
  5. busy bodys into busybodies
  6. indicement into indictment
  7. Lampons into Lampoons
  8. Lyndi Lauper into Cyndi (I think that's how it's spelled) Lauper
  9. Manoeuvres into Maneuvers
  10. Micheal into Michael
  11. unintelligble into unintelligible

Civic CatTalk to Civic Cat 21:43, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

[edit] stuff I deleted and why

If you don't think my reason(s) was good enough for deleting a particular entry, then, as I've mentioned above, put 'em right back in. Indeed, I might put in a few back. I find it hard to believe that every song by these artists/groups, or a particular album, is suitable for the list.

  1. "Anything by Anti-Flag"
    I never heard of them and 6 songs are already on the list elsewhere, and I gave them their own heading.
  2. "Anything by Bad Religion"
  3. "Anything by black metal bands Immortal, Dimmu Borgir and Emperor. Most black metal for that matter (most of it is anti-Christian, except "Unblack metal", which is for)."
    A lot of black metal is crap.
  4. "Anything by Megadeth. Particularly "Symphony of destruction" and "Peace sells" "
  5. "Anything by Devo."
    However, I think Devo should have its own sub-heading, at least eventually.
  6. "Anything by Ministry ( example: No W is about exactly what you think it is )".
    Some Ministry is lame and/or hasn't aged well.
  7. "Anything from Pink Floyd's "The Final Cut" album"
  8. "Anything else by Rough Trade, for that matter."
    Deleted from Sex and Love, but I kept and moved High School Confidential and mentioned Carole and Kevin in Transformation entry. Likely other songs could make it to the list, such What's the furor about the Fuhrer, Don't stop Johnny, Crimes of Passion, Birds of a Feather, It's a Jungle, maybe even the Pepsi commercial.
  9. "Everything by Pansy Division. (The gay right to parody heavy metal songs!)"
    though I left "Anything by Pansy Division."

Civic CatTalk to Civic Cat 21:43, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

[edit] other notes

  1. I/we might want to add <no wiki>===Poverty===</no wiki>heading
  2. should "Don't Drink the Water", Dave Matthews Band be moved from Social Issues to Environment?
  3. I understand Ich Bin Ein Auslander" has been co-opted by neo-Nazi shitheads. I never liked the song anyway: even worse than "Wise Up." Much better was "Bulletproof."
  4. I moved "San Quentin", Johnny Cash. Tough on crime, huh? Mr. Congressman, you'll never understand" from Social Issues to Johnny Cash. Let others merge it.
  5. Is Depeche Mode's A Question of Time" supportive of teen sex. "It won't be long before you do exactly as the want/tell you to." Sounds like it could just as well be put into the Feminism, even Conservative, headings.
  6. I moved Personal Jesus out of sex and love and into unclassified as I'm unsure what it's about. Keep in mind Marilyn Manson's cover.
  7. Should I Fought the Law go into the Clash or Dead Kennedys heading?
  8. I took "We Don't Need That Fascist Groove Thang" from the anti-racist section and put it with the other in the political section. I'll let others merge them. Btw, could BBC be sued for libel for playing it?
  9. two "Nazi Punks Fuck Off" listings also need to be merged (like Heaven 17, one is also in the political section and another in the anti-racism)
  10. " "Some Girls", Rolling Stones. "Black girls just want to get fucked all night, I don't have that much jam!" " Anyone else wonder if there's a bit of racism here?      ("And the colored girls go, doo too too...,") ( R.I.P., Lou Reed.)
  11. I've made an extra link or two to CP, and a few to WP, but I might link from Wikipedia to here
  12. Tim Minchin: I never heard of him. I did a quick check on the article. He looks promising: hence I didn't delete but perhaps his fans could list songs.
  13. This list has gotten long, and yes, I've done my fair share to contribute to that. They way I see it, and I'm mostly indifferent to what to do, is:
    1. Leave as is.
    2. Split the article as they do at WP. The largest sections is Notable artists/groups, Sex and Love, and Political.

      Maybe there can be

      Fun:Greatest songs, liberal and conservative (Notable artists/groups)
      Fun:Greatest songs, liberal and conservative (Sex and Love)
      Fun:Greatest songs, liberal and conservative (Political)
      or
      Fun:Greatest songs, liberal and conservative (Notable artists/groups, Sex and Love, and Political)
      or
      Fun:Greatest songs, liberal and conservative/Notable artists/groups
      Fun:Greatest songs, liberal and conservative/Sex and Love
      Fun:Greatest songs, liberal and conservative'Political
      or
      Fun:Greatest songs, liberal and conservative/Notable artists/groups, Sex and Love, and Political
      With sub-pages being linked from headings
      or
      whatever.
    3. Vote out a minimum fraction of such.

Civic CatTalk to Civic Cat 21:43, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

[edit] Cosmik Debris

What does Cosmik Debris have to do with liberals?--Кřěĵ (ṫåɬк) 06:01, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

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