Talk:Argument from authority
These were well researched and I gave citations, please don't revert without giving good reason. Proxima Centauri (talk) 05:29, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
[edit] Excised
I cut this from the main Fallacy page, with the intent of bringing it here, but then I couldn't see where it belonged in this article either. So I'll take the coward's option and place it here at talk. Voxhumana (talk) 07:04, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Ex equus pyga -- "From the horse's ass" is a variety of argument from authority. The horse's ass claims a particular status such as former military or government service to lend weight to their assertions or imperatives. It is a supremely ineffective strategy, resulting only in the inflation of the horse's ass's own chest. Anyone who has ever tried to cinch a saddle girth tight on an unwilling animal knows that the beast is not that hard to outsmart. All it takes is patience, since sooner or later he must exhale.
- I can't quite understand what the last two sentences are getting at, mixed metaphors, perhaps?
theist 09:38, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
Seems like the nerds here on RW don't even know what actual rationality is if they believe an AA is EVER a valid argument. 174.54.34.65 (talk) 20:40, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you for your input. ₭£€‡₦怇₮ 21:22, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- DRINK!
gnostic
22:47, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
- DRINK!
IIRC, that one was aimed at TK, who used to thump his chest with claims that his CV included some sort of military or security service. It is now stale, and may be incinerated. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 23:17, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
The article boils down to ad verecundiam being the second best thing to sex. But to spoil a good party, the conclusion never follows from the premise in any inductive argument. It's a good tool to add numerical weight to a consensus at the expense of quality, and then use the consensus as a throwing weapon against whistleblowers that threaten a position of influence and power. I results in a self-sustaining escalation of fallacies: ad verecundiam (expert said it) -> ad numerum (millions accept it) -> ad baculum (you deny it)--Brasov (talk) 00:29, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
- Like everything else you write, I'm not sure if you don't understand what you're talking about or just have trouble communicating it well.
postate
17:53, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
[edit] Argumentum ab auctoritate
It looks like Argumentum ad verecundiam is different from Argumentum ab auctoritate which is what this article is actually about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority#Etymology Argumentum ad verecundiam seems to be appeal to shame (or modesty) and Argumentum ab auctoritate means appeal to authority.-- Pedja (speak up, contributions) 13:17, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, that would be the literal translation - though since "verecundiam" is used to reference this fallacy, one could say "appeal to authority" is still the English equivalent. Interesting bit of etymological trivia to include, though.
bomination 15:07, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
- Actually, I'd rather shift the article itself to "argument from authority", to avoid dog-latin in titles. {{subst:expand:User:Armondikov/sig}} 15:07, 4 April 2014 (UTC)