Talk:Argument from beauty

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"...the perception of beauty is a psychological phenomenon that is easily described in terms of evolutionary principles and neurological models of sensory processing." Isn't that just a tad reductionist? How do we explain e.g. the Mona Lisa from evolutionary principles? --AKjeldsenGodspeed! 06:08, 17 December 2007 (EST)

One popular view of art/music is that they are display adaptations much like the peacock's tail. There are other species that produce visual and auditory stimulations to pick up females. The bowerbirds for example the male constructs elaborate nests that he places colorful objects in with a pattern. Females will select males based on the color, number and distribution of these nest decorations. Whales produce complex songs that females analyze to determine mating partners. There are many other examples. The specifics of why certain things are "art" and certain things are "not art" can be species dependent and would relate to honest signaling with in that species and the sometimes arbitrary development of opposite sex preferences. 75.161.54.187 11:46, 17 December 2007 (EST)

I cut the following text because it just seems bizarre here (or anywhere, for that matter):

Objection #1: Sexual intercourse must be enjoyable, otherwise, no one would bother doing it.

Without an orgasm, sex is no longer a positive experience, but merely the removal of a negative experience, like relieving the bladder or scratching an itch. If sex evolved the same way hunger, thirst, itching, or the need to pee evolved, then sexual desire would not exist, and it would simply be a steadily increasing ache caused by blood continuing to pool in the pelvic area until forced out by muscular contractions, which may be the case for many animals that rut.

Objection #2: Subtract the pleasure, and sex becomes an uncomfortable, inconvenient, and altogether disgusting act. Adaptation is the answer.

It is the mind-boggling intensity of the pleasure of orgasm, all out of proportion to any counter-forces such as "inconvenience" or "uncomfortableness" or "disgust" that indicates it must be a "bonus" thrown in by the Creatrix because She loves us.

ħumanUser talk:Human 14:26, 4 November 2008 (EST)

[edit] Blue bottle flies

are 'beautiful.'

They carry diseases.

Therefore this argument stinks.— Unsigned, by: 212.85.6.26 / talk / contribs

[edit] Flowers

Flowers stink. Not all of them, but certainly some lilies, irises, and paperwhite narcissus. That is all. Alec Sanderson (talk) 12:48, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Irony

So they say sex is bad, but then try to prove God using the female orgasm? Wow...--TemplarJLS (talk) 08:54, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
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