Talk:Babel Fish
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[edit] HG's addition
Sorry, why is it ironic? Was Adams an aetheist? Even if he was, why does it matter that the term originated from the bible? Is it ironic when an aetheist uses the word sodomy? ThunderkatzHo! 20:38, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
- It is ironic when an atheist finds inspiration in the Bible. You can change it though. It's a wiki. Heart♥GoldJump up and down 20:39, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
Was Adams an atheist? Where have you been. He made Dawkins look like a catholic! Keepoff the grass 20:42, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
- It is ironic because a universal translator (making all languages one) is named for a myth involving the fragmentation of language (making one language all).--MountainTiger 20:46, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
- But he could still find inspiration from it even if he thought it was just another book. Many fantasy writers find inspiration in J.R.R. Tolkien's books. Yet no one thinks (hopefully) that Tolkien's works are authentic historical documents. ThunderkatzHo! 20:45, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
- And no one said Adam's inspiration was all that was necessary (or even partially necessary) to authenticate the Bible. Heart♥GoldJump up and down 20:47, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
- HG: The question is not the authenticity of the bible, but what is ironic about Adams taking a word from it. Once again, is it ironic for an aetheist to use the word sodomy? MountainTiger: According to the quote under the picture, the original goal of Babel was to unify the people together, kinda making it unironic. (Sorry if I'm argumentative, but it's been so long since I've had a real argument that wasn't just shouting)(Not that I don't believe in my stance) ThunderkatzHo! 20:55, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
- Irony is highly subjective, but I find the name both appropriate and somewhat amusing. The connection between fish and tower as unifying objects, by the way, is one I'd never considered. I actually like that angle about as well as the one I took.--MountainTiger 21:09, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
- If fish = tower Then
- Me.mind = explode
- End if
- (ThunderkatzHo! 21:19, 29 July 2007 (CDT))
- I apologize for my previous comment and object to my next comment. ThunderkatzHo! 21:22, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
- I'd say leave the first sentence, and take out the rest of the section as well as the section heading and image. That's where the point to Heart's addition is, the rest is a waste of space. --Kels 20:50, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
- If fish = tower Then
- Irony is highly subjective, but I find the name both appropriate and somewhat amusing. The connection between fish and tower as unifying objects, by the way, is one I'd never considered. I actually like that angle about as well as the one I took.--MountainTiger 21:09, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
- But he could still find inspiration from it even if he thought it was just another book. Many fantasy writers find inspiration in J.R.R. Tolkien's books. Yet no one thinks (hopefully) that Tolkien's works are authentic historical documents. ThunderkatzHo! 20:45, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
[edit] editing HG
But,HG, every time someone amends something of yours (or B*****'s) we get cries of "conspiracy" or "liberal swarm" people don't want to fuel your paranoia. (oops - that word again) Keepoff the grass 20:51, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
- Too late. XD --Kels 20:53, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
- Swarms aren't conpsiracies...they are swarms. Run on something akin to instinct. Also, please be careful with the conspiracy and paranoia inuenndos...they are cheap shots. This is not my wiki, so if you want to revert me, go ahead. I got sick of the complaints in this case, and just took out the commentary. Heart♥GoldJump up and down 23:26, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
- I note that when I edited your work to remove unnecessary and frankly off-topic material while leaving your point intact, you reverted it without comment on the talk page. Your incessant ravings about swarms doesn't excuse you being rude. --Kels 06:40, 30 July 2007 (CDT)
[edit] EDIT WAR!!!
You're OK with me HG. It's a pretty picture. I'm turning in now (5:30 AM here) so Big Sister is not watching you. Night! Keepoff the grass 23:35, 29 July 2007 (CDT)
[edit] Tower of Babel
I've created a separate article of this.--Bob_M (talk) 06:36, 30 July 2007 (CDT)
[edit] Khalufid's Fork
Incredible. We're actually quoting CP as a reference for this??? Or did somebody sneak it in? ..... Now I do a bit of googling though I see that the CP article is an exact copy of the WP one.--Bob_M (talk) 07:12, 30 July 2007 (CDT)
- As the article now says, this looks like a hoax. WP is worried about it but, not surprisingly, CP has no problems. Unless the original poster objects, or comes up with more data, I'll remove it from the article later - or perhaps include it as a separate numerous entry. Unless somebody else does it first.--Bob_M (talk) 15:16, 30 July 2007 (CDT)
- Hmn, criticizing CP for falling for something that the WP, which is patrolled much more often, also fell for? Chances are the same prankster put both articles up. Heart♥GoldJump up and down 16:05, 30 July 2007 (CDT)
- "WP is worried about it" - what, all of it? Or just some smartarse who's read his Douglas Adams? Totnesmartin 16:14, 30 July 2007 (CDT)
- Hehehe, I thought it was pretty apparent where the article came from. prettydilettantelies 16:21, 30 July 2007 (CDT)
- Honestly you guys. Whenever you see something with the CatWatcher signature on it, especially when it is posted on Cp, you gotta ask some skeptical questions, now haven't you. I originally wrote this article, and I also wrote the one on Cp! The one on Wp was posted some time later, by some guy called DumbleBore (I swear I never heard of him). I even left a clue in the text here "...although many have doubted that this is true." Whether or not it is true, depends on your point of view. If you are a Conservapedian, it is a truth that has been around for the past 4 months (almost), and has been picked over by three separate Sysops (in fact it got vandalised and reverted to the original by a sysop). Admittedly it has only been on Wp for two months, but in that time the article has been categorised as philosophy, it has been picked up and scrutinised by the Iran interest group, and has been categorised as 'low' quality by the Philosphy Editorial Team (I was a bit miffed about that one!). Since I have said that I didn't post it on Wp, I'm certainly not going to challenge it there. However, you take your pick here and on Cp. Is it true, or isn't it? When you have an encyclopedia that anyone can edit, how do you actually determine what is true and what is false; where is the line between truth and fiction, and how can you then trust anything? These are very important questions.--CatWatcher 09:16, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
- I agree with your statement "how can you trust anything" and also apply that to other examples, such as PiltDown man. My main point, though, was that RW is critisizing CP but not WP, when WP should be in a better position to detect the BS. Heart♥GoldJump up and down 12:31, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
- I think BobM mischaracterized it when he said WP is worried about it. The only one who seems to have noticed it is Totnesmartin. Coincidentally, this happended right after an RW article was created pointing out the two articles were the same. Really, neither site caught it. It's harder to blame wikipedia, because you're talking about one article among 1,922,520 (the last time I checked). At conservapedia, you're talking about 1 out of (according to them) 15,700. However, sysops and other important people on both sites looked at it, read it, added to it, and missed the fact that it was fake. Also, RW is not the one criticizing CP on that point, only a single individual. ThunderkatzHo! 12:48, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
- coincidentally? I checked the recent changes and found something I'd never heard of, then the penny dropped. But by Odin did I have to dig out the research. Well done Thunderkatz. Totnesmartin 15:00, 31 July 2007 (CDT) (goatspeed! you black emperor)
- I think BobM mischaracterized it when he said WP is worried about it. The only one who seems to have noticed it is Totnesmartin. Coincidentally, this happended right after an RW article was created pointing out the two articles were the same. Really, neither site caught it. It's harder to blame wikipedia, because you're talking about one article among 1,922,520 (the last time I checked). At conservapedia, you're talking about 1 out of (according to them) 15,700. However, sysops and other important people on both sites looked at it, read it, added to it, and missed the fact that it was fake. Also, RW is not the one criticizing CP on that point, only a single individual. ThunderkatzHo! 12:48, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
- I agree with your statement "how can you trust anything" and also apply that to other examples, such as PiltDown man. My main point, though, was that RW is critisizing CP but not WP, when WP should be in a better position to detect the BS. Heart♥GoldJump up and down 12:31, 31 July 2007 (CDT)
- "WP is worried about it" - what, all of it? Or just some smartarse who's read his Douglas Adams? Totnesmartin 16:14, 30 July 2007 (CDT)
- Hmn, criticizing CP for falling for something that the WP, which is patrolled much more often, also fell for? Chances are the same prankster put both articles up. Heart♥GoldJump up and down 16:05, 30 July 2007 (CDT)
[edit] BABEL FISH R TASY
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