Talk:Christina Hoff Sommers
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[edit] Involvement with AVFM?
Ugh, another article for the long, long crap-cleanup list. :( Let's say I'm not terribly surprised at both major contributors to the article and the slant it had after each one's edits...
Anyway, the current text states that "She's also writing for the MRA website A Voice for Men". Is she actually an active contributor, or are they just republishing her pieces with/without permission? The post linked in the source, "Masculinity Is More Than a Mask", was originally published as an opinion column in Time three days before being re-published on AVFM.--ZooGuard (talk) 16:16, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
- Good catch. Two of her articles appeared on AVFM so far, both after they were first on TIME. I'll go and rewrite that part. Typhoon (talk) 16:57, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
[edit] What does equity feminist mean
I never understood that term. Tried Googling it. Just wanted to know for my own understanding. Can someone please add a section to this article explaining, in detail, what equity feminism even means? Only because, maybe there are other people out there who are confused too, and this seems like the right wiki to explain that sort of thing to the uninformed. Parogar (talk) 06:24, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
- AFAICT, equity feminism was a term invented by Sommers in order to pretend that she was a 'good' feminist, in contrast to all those 'bad' feminists. The definition seems to be along the lines:
- "All those changes in society that feminism has already wrought, that we accept and even take for granted, they're all good feminism, i.e. equity feminism. All those things that feminists are still campaigning for, those are taking things too far and bad feminism. I'm a conservative who realises that opposing everything that feminism has already done won't win over the people I want to win over, so instead I rebrand my conservatism as 'equity feminism' and hope no-one pays any attention to the reactionary behind the curtain. Anyone who doesn't believe that we are already living in a post-misogyny utopia is clearly one of those nasty radical feminists, and not a good, wholesome, equity feminist like me." Queexchthonic murmurings 10:57, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
[edit] Question
Do we allow artistic representations like this one?—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 05:40, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
- I have no idea; the pic won't display for me. ConfusedLiberal (talk)
[edit] Jesus F****** Christ!
She is also positively referred to by the notorious mass-murderer and anti-feminist
Are you kidding me?! This site is a joke-anyone who disagrees with its views, no matter how slightly, even if they are a feminist, is compared with mass murders..It's like when fundies say 'Adolf Hitler and Stalin were athiests!!!' And the pages on Anita Sarkeesian and The Amazing Atheist as well as the 'responses' to Thunderf00t's videos are just a complete joke. This site is no better than Conservapedia now. Fredrich Neitzere's quote omes to mind: 'He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you.' Ironically, this site seems to have started out as anti Religion but has embraced the newest Religion on the block-modern feminism, who's Satan is the patriachy and where women like Anita Sarkeesian are the Christ figure-always persecuted even when they're being rewarded with eternal bliss (or half a million dollars). I'm never coming here again. And to those of you who will likely reply 'Good-we don't want you here anyway', I'm glad, because to be wanted by people like this, to be held in high esteem by them, would be a far, far greater insult than that. So goodbye, 'Rational'wiki, until you denounce ALL Religions.--Thedoctor81 (talk) 20:31, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
- Well, that's not very nice. Narky Sawtooth
(BoN is paranoid!) 20:36, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
- Admittedly I struggled reading this...but the gist that I gathered is that just because someone quoted a person in this article we shouldn't say what the credentials of that person was? Or is it the part where you fell off the cliff with "Feminism is a religion"? Yea, ya lost me for sure. Trick (talk) 20:39, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
- Take a shot.--Madman (talk) 20:45, 24 February 2015 (UTC)The Madman
- (triple EC)To anyone anti-theistic, "X is a religion" suggests problems. But the thing is, they suggest a specific class of problem. Notably that X suggests unsubstantiated supernatural claims, usually asserting an authority derived from those claims. Make a better argument, please. Please. Ikanreed (talk) 20:47, 24 February 2015 (UTC)