# Talk:Circular reasoning

Why does circular reasoning redirect to begging the question? I know they are related but I think they are substantially enough difference for there to be two articles. I would say that circular reasoning is the formal fallacy and begging the question is an informal version of the same fallacy. - π 00:57, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Insofar as a formal fallacy of this sort is possible (reduced to form it is just a tautology, $A\rightarrow A$), I have seen both terms used, correctly, in both contexts. ListenerXTalkerX 04:05, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
I thought they were different, but apparently not. If they are different, it's subtle. WP redirects circular reasoning to begging the question if that helps, and most sources I can find say that they're the same. theist