Talk:Corporal punishment
[edit] legal status
(so, i came looking for a more fun article on spanking, sheesh). I think we might want to look more carefully into the "legal" definition here, cause at least in the US, spanking is distinct from smacking, which is distinct from hitting. A spank is defined as on the butt, (some states regulate that it's not on naked skin), and not in anger or frustration, and not instantaneous (ie., planned... "go to your room, i'm coming up in 10 minutes). a smack is somewhere other than the butt, or in anger/frustration, etc. We might also want to address how schools have changed, and what the laws for schools are.
Godotoi, putain, genial, merci 20:30, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
- I think we should take a position. Me, I'm anti-spanking. An American Fallacy (super crazy fun time!) 20:34, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
- Personally, I'm fine with it, as long as it's really spanking not something else. You don't do it angry; they child knows before it happens how many swats it will be; you leave no marks but a red butt, etc. restrained and calm. and the FEAR is the best part of the motivation. "I'll be up in one hour, and you'll sit there till then, waiting for me'. ;-) --
Godotoi, putain, genial, merci 20:58, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
- I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, that corporal punishment of any kind is now illegal in the UK. I was caned several times in school - on the butt with a three foot long cane - and our PT master used a slipper frequently. We wore it as a badge of honour - no deterrent whatsoever. Scream!! (talk) 21:13, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
- I'll support corporal punishment as soon as you're able to give your wife/husband an "educational" slap for doing or saying something disagreeable. I believe using violence against someone ("rational" thinking or not) is wrong unless in self-defense. All it shows them is that violence is a good way to listen to you, and I doubt they'd ever grow up to be independent thinkers. I've never hit my child even once.— Unsigned, by: 68.61.170.36 / talk / contribs
- Per this article, you can spank in the home in UK, if you don't leave any mark. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporal_punishment --
Godotoi, putain, genial, merci 21:23, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
- My position is that one ought to assume the position like so:
Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 21:38, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
- hot flesh!
Godotoi, putain, genial, merci 21:44, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
- IIRC the law actually uses the word "trifling" in describing the injuries you can and cannot inflict on someone - irregardless (sic) of consent. Anyway, why do they ban instantaneous smacking? Do they have no idea how chastisement is supposed to work? If it's not instant, it's completely pointless because someone won't be in the same frame of mind as they were when they did something wrong and so the associations won't actually stick.
moral 14:02, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
- IIRC the law actually uses the word "trifling" in describing the injuries you can and cannot inflict on someone - irregardless (sic) of consent. Anyway, why do they ban instantaneous smacking? Do they have no idea how chastisement is supposed to work? If it's not instant, it's completely pointless because someone won't be in the same frame of mind as they were when they did something wrong and so the associations won't actually stick.
- hot flesh!
- My position is that one ought to assume the position like so:
- Per this article, you can spank in the home in UK, if you don't leave any mark. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporal_punishment --
- Personally, I'm fine with it, as long as it's really spanking not something else. You don't do it angry; they child knows before it happens how many swats it will be; you leave no marks but a red butt, etc. restrained and calm. and the FEAR is the best part of the motivation. "I'll be up in one hour, and you'll sit there till then, waiting for me'. ;-) --
I am compelled to say something about the argument of "I was hit as a child and I turned out fine", but as there is no section devoted to arguments for or against the matter, I am unsure where to include such a thing. And then there are instances of people, such as teachers, who lament no longer having such a power. Thoughts? 172.222.26.106 (talk) 19:58, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
- "I am compelled to say something about the argument of "I was hit as a child and I turned out fine"" Is what you want to say something along the lines of "that's a completely stupid argument that no civilized person should ever make"? I would certainly hope that's what you want to say. JubalHarshaw (talk) 20:08, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
- Pretty much. Problem is,
I can't really say why it's stupid.Scratch that; I know why it's stupid: it's fallacious. All I know is that a Texan politician whose name escapes me used the argument in an attempt to keep it legal in that state172.222.26.106 (talk) 19:22, 6 October 2012 (UTC)- If presented like that, it would be anecdotal evidence and appeal to tradition. But saying "it didn't harm me, so it won't harm this kid that I'm about to whack" also plays a bit with the problem of induction.
gnostic
02:49, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
- If presented like that, it would be anecdotal evidence and appeal to tradition. But saying "it didn't harm me, so it won't harm this kid that I'm about to whack" also plays a bit with the problem of induction.
- Pretty much. Problem is,