Talk:Cuba
US embargo is the reason for Cuba's economic difficulties, not an opressive/backwards regime. The reason why old cars are still used is because of the USA's economic sanctions against Cuba. You could argue that if it truly was not a backwards regime, new transport would have been developed but it is only a small island. If Cuba was the size of the USA, their economy would be progressing faster and better, more energy efficient cars would have been developed by Cuba's far more (in comparison to the US) creative and intelligent people. — Unsigned, by: 81.96.237.53 / talk / contribs 16:31, August 13, 2010
- Why don't they just import cars from other countries? Also, if Cuba is so great, then why are people leaving the country by the boatload? If Cuba where the size of the USA, it would be a somewhat weaker version of the old USSR. --Onion
Hi! :) 21:33, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
- Where do you suggest they import cars from then? People are leaving the country to see the world, I doubt a given Cuban person would rather live in the USA, where if they got injured, they would spend their lives paying either profiteers from insurance companies or expensive, overpaid doctors. Cuba would not be like the USSR in any way because Cuba does not adopt the Leninite idea of a planned economy and has a much superior education system to evil capitalist societies such as the US.
- There are many car companies around the world in countries like Japan, China, and European countries.The United States is where Cubans are going, and I don't think they have tourism in mind when they crawl into a tiny, uncomfortable little raft. If Cuba has a better educational system then the USA, then why is Cuba so downtrodden? Also, declaring that capitalist societies are "evil" is not logically sound. --Onion
Hi! :) 19:24, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- Cuba's downtrodden because of the fundamentalism inherent in Castro's Communism -- central planning, repression of freedom of speech, etc, etc. That doesn't mean that they can't do *something* right. EVDebs (talk) 20:04, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- My point is that the United States is better run economically then Cuba. Communist countries tend to become stagnant, especially when they are small and non-industrial like Cuba. --Onion
Hi! :) 20:35, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- This is largely true; Marxist socialism is a demonstrable failure economically. But the US still suffers from massive income inequalities and tries to pretend it doesn't -- instead of repression, we have denial. In absolute terms, yes, the US is generally better off than Cuba by a substantial amount. But in many ways we're still not even close to a perfect system. Really, this isn't complicated. The US is unquestionably more prosperous than Cuba, but it does not necessarily follow that a) we are in any way perfect or b) that Cuba may not do some things better than we do. EVDebs (talk) 21:06, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- My point is that the United States is better run economically then Cuba. Communist countries tend to become stagnant, especially when they are small and non-industrial like Cuba. --Onion
Hi! :) 20:35, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- Cuba's downtrodden because of the fundamentalism inherent in Castro's Communism -- central planning, repression of freedom of speech, etc, etc. That doesn't mean that they can't do *something* right. EVDebs (talk) 20:04, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- There are many car companies around the world in countries like Japan, China, and European countries.The United States is where Cubans are going, and I don't think they have tourism in mind when they crawl into a tiny, uncomfortable little raft. If Cuba has a better educational system then the USA, then why is Cuba so downtrodden? Also, declaring that capitalist societies are "evil" is not logically sound. --Onion
Hi! :) 19:24, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- Where do you suggest they import cars from then? People are leaving the country to see the world, I doubt a given Cuban person would rather live in the USA, where if they got injured, they would spend their lives paying either profiteers from insurance companies or expensive, overpaid doctors. Cuba would not be like the USSR in any way because Cuba does not adopt the Leninite idea of a planned economy and has a much superior education system to evil capitalist societies such as the US.
- This "Guillermo Farinas " person seemed to have been released as a tactic, in order to get him out of the country. --Onion
Hi! :) 21:37, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
- I disagree, but I cannot prove that he is not an exeption.
- While the embargo is a factor, remember that before the fall of the USSR Cuba could trade with the whole Communist block, and got as much Russian help (both technical and cash) as it could desire. Despite of that, in 1989, after three decades of revolution, Castro's wealth-creating archievements were to grow sugarcane and tobacco... basically regressing the island's economy to the 18th century. --Xyr (talk) 21:52, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
- It was not a 'Communist' block just because their (the USSR's) International was called Comintern. It was three decades of reform more than anything, but I agree that they could have made better use of Comintern's support.
This article needs a lot of work. Lyra § talk 21:47, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
Isn't Cuba counted as a country living rather sustainably (at least compared to the way Uncle Sam leads his life)? I'd be pleased to see some summary about it here --88.112.90.198 (talk) 12:55, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
[edit] The Current State of the Embargo
Multiple diplomats, US military officials and businessmen are now calling for easing (or even lifting) the embargo. The embargo has been eased, even if it hasn't been lifted (if I recall correctly only congress can do that, and they won't). Alsto003 (talk) 06:54, 30 March 2015 (UTC) Alex