Talk:Cultural Marxism

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[edit] Re-write needed?

I don't think Cultural Marxism is a conflation of cultural studies and Marxist analysis. Whenever I've seen the term employed, it's usually in reference to the Frankfurt School and the PC Police it (allegedly) spawned. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 05:29, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

One of the problems of this wiki is people writing off the top of their head, instead of after doing some research... :(--ZooGuard (talk) 10:18, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Removed a lot of content, but at least the rewrite is accurate. Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 02:10, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

I don't understand why McDonald's work is considered anti-semitic? That is one of the concerns about Cultural Marxism - you cannot criticize any group activity because you will be considered "racist", thus silencing any debate before it can get off the ground. — Unsigned, by: Orpheus7777 / talk / contribs 22:16, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Cultural Marxism: The Documentary

Get the popcorn! Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 02:23, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

[edit] What is it supposed to mean as a snarl word?

From what I've read, it's usually used as a synonym for the already abused "multiculturalism".--ZooGuard (talk) 09:07, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

[edit] Self-defined Cultural Marxist

Can anyone name an actual Cultural Marxist who identifies that way? I know Marxists have used the term Cultural Hegemony but I've only ever heard people on the right of politics use this term. What I'm getting at is - is this is a real term, or is this used exclusively by the right side of politics as a strawman? — Unsigned, by: 60.241.86.130 / talk / contribs 12:06, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

Only ironically - David Gerard (talk) 12:17, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
Since none exist, I believe that's the reason Wikipedia removed their page. "There are no reliable sources that state there are people who describe themselves as 'cultural marxists', and there is no 'school of thought'. The 'school of thought' was tagged as the beginning of 'cultural marxism' by right-wing conspiracy theorists. Mostly those of the Neo-Nazi persuasion." via the old talk page. --Frybread (talk) 21:16, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
And now a bunch of Gamergaters and neo-Nazis from Stormfront and elsewhere managed to make enough noise about it that Jimbo himself re-opened the discussion (Jimbo loves the balance fallacy). But remember guys Gamergate is about ethics in game journalism! --Ymir (talk) 07:40, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

[edit] We're #1!

Upset Twitter right-winger to other upset Twitter right-winger. So, what can we do to polish this article up? What more can we add? - David Gerard (talk) 12:54, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Actually, I just tested this: from the UK, on a not-logged-in copy of Opera, we're Google #5, DuckDuckGo #6, Yahoo #7, Bing #8. So what actually happened is that outraged dude's just been reading RW a lot and Google remembered. "Top kek," as the kids say these days - David Gerard (talk) 13:14, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Sidebar: communism or conspiracy?

Should the sidebar be communism or conspiracy theory? - David Gerard (talk) 15:41, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

I think conspiracy theory is more appropriate given the content of the article. Also, while the concept is used in academic works, the term is almost never used.--TiaC (talk) 18:23, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
And I've just written up the actual history of the conspiracy sense. So conspiracy it is! - David Gerard (talk) 19:07, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

[edit] That Wikipedia bit looks like a lump on the side

Does it really belong in Gamergate? I mentioned GG here because they've been throwing the term around so much - David Gerard (talk) 14:38, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

It's also pretty ironic for the Gamergaters to be throwing it around considering their vulgar, nihilistic behavior and the violent, sexually explicit video games they enjoy. One could point out that they and their games are the products of "cultural Marxism" themselves. --Nabil (talk) 09:18, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

[edit] See also: Critical legal studies "has very little to actually do with this"

From critical legal studies: "Critical legal studies builds on the "critical theory" championed by the cultural Marxist Frankfurt School of sociological thinkers." Critical legal studies is very much a specific application of cultural marxism. AgingHippie (talk) 17:40, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Ah, OK - I was thinking of the conspiracy theory - David Gerard (talk) 19:03, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
I figgered. I edited the "what cultural studies is to academic a-holes" section of this article to make it a little clearer/punchier. Thought about putting that first, but, no, the article is really about the snarl term... AgingHippie (talk) 19:07, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
See, cultural studies and critical theory exist in the real world. "Cultural Marxism" basically doesn't as a term in present-day usage. They looked high and low on Wikipedia for non-cranks using it and couldn't find any - David Gerard (talk) 00:08, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
I encountered it pretty often in grad school, but largely through a prof who was around a time and a place where the term was still pretty much standard usage. Dennis Dworkin's book on the intellectual history thereof is worth reading. AgingHippie (talk) 00:40, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
Also, Google Scholar gets 1800 academic hits for the term, and the first few pages don't look cranky at all. Surprised the Wikipedia brain trust didn't see that. AgingHippie (talk) 00:46, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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