Talk:Eurabia
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[edit] Article not rational
Article claims that Eurabia is a "conspiracy theory" and "PIDOOMA." The statistics for fertility rate and annual immigration number can be found on any European government website. See also: math.KingtheKing (talk) 02:20, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
[edit] Unwarranted revert
I expanded the article and added links and sources. It was reverted without explanation. It is impossible to discuss every edit on the talk page, no wiki works like that. I did change the tone of the article to make it more factual, fun is not a substitute for facts, and I assume users do want some information from RW articles.
Still needs editing to add some names - Bruce Bawer, Theodore Dalrymple, Oriana Fallaci, Serge Trifkovic, Daniel Pipes, Mark Steyn, Robert Spencer. Drelane (talk) 10:37, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
- Drelane's edit looked OK to me. Bit of a knee-jerk revert there? Scream!! (talk) 12:27, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
[edit] Londonistan
Would it be awkward of me to point out that Londonistan (which redirects to this page) was actually a pejorative term coined by the French police in the 90s as a reference to the policy of tolerating Muslim extremists basing themselves in London on the principle that they wouldn't attack a place willing to put up with them? I don't want facts getting in the way of this "rational" entry.— Unsigned, by: 31.6.53.12 / talk / contribs 17:51, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
[edit] There is a lot of evidence for it
The counter-argument is that birth rates among Muslim decline in Europe; However, birth rates among newly arrived immigrants are through the roof, and there are no signs that there will be cuts in immigration. On the contrary, due to political unrest in the middle east and Pakistan, immigration is destined to increase. Add that to the fact that Europeans have barely any children, and it's hard to imagine anything other than Eurabia will happen. — Unsigned, by: Steelman / talk / contribs
- Even if the first generation has lots of kids Their children will probably assimilate and become as European as anyone else. Even if they don't assimilate culturally for several generations the birth rate will probably lower in successive generations. The low infant mortality rates and the fact that children are more of an economic liability then an asset will see to that. And yeah I just made this argument up, still I find it easier to imagine then Eurabia which strikes me as fear mongering, and hatred of minority groups. --NonPerson (talk) 02:09, 9 July 2014 (UTC)
Do you honestly believe your argument? Studies show Muslims become MORE religious each generation, not less. Eurabia is fact. Just accept it.— Unsigned, by: 174.61.214.56 / talk / contribs 04:04, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
- Except in the United States <http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-app-a/> and oddly enough, France, <http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/may/07/muslims-britain-france-germany-homosexuality> (I highly doubt that 48% of people from those immigrants' home countries accept premarital sex let alone 35% who accept homosexuality as acceptable). That is a rather positive and surprising (given current events over the past several years) development for France since it seems to show that French Muslims are quite content on becoming French. Alsto003 (talk) 22:01, 25 July 2014 (UTC) Alex
[edit] Problematic Phrase
the following quote technically contradicts itself. "Unsurprisingly, proponents of the Eurabia theory rarely provide evidence. Claims about the demographic transformation of Europe rest on assumptions of extremely high birthrates among Muslim immigrants, which also continue indefinitely." If the transformation of Europe into Eurabia rests on the assumption of continuous high birthrates and continuous immigration from Muslims countries which continue indefinitely than Eurabia (which I should add only really applies to western Europe) will indeed be a fact. I don't care if this term is used by xenophobes, this article should present a clear analysis of this idea and more importantly the various merits of the assumptions it rests on and we must start by addressing the fairly obvious contradiction made in the two sentences quoted from the article. Alsto003 (talk) 04:55, 19 October 2014 (UTC) Alex