Talk:Falsifiability
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[edit] Consistent
09:20, 31 December 2012 (UTC)Mcc1789 (talk)Sorry- I accidentally reverted my changes, but then restored them. -EricB 15:18, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
- You might want to make sure that this article remains consistent with our article Scientific theory. :-) --Bobbing up 15:38, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
Shall we need a little note saying falsifiability is not the same as fakeability? I personally think it could be useful, because in Romance languages like French or Spanish, "falsificabilité" / "falsificabiildad" means "fakeability", and the cognate might be confusing for native speakers of these languages. Just saying :3 -- 157.159.40.81 (talk) 02:10, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
[edit] Not true
Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ does not endorse this website because there is nothing in the Holy Bible that says he does
well that was easy.PandaLover (talk) 19:24, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
- I assume you picked this random location to make that comment because recent changes has no talk page? ħuman
02:31, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
[edit] Bad choice of term.
Why is falsifiability called what it is? I have had several occasions (including with myself) where the underlying point behind the term was lost because like the above user said falsifiability sounds like 'fakeability'. Why can't it be something a term that non-scientists could understand like 'Disprovability' or something? - Lago 9:59 AM, 27AUG10 (CST)
- Blame Popper. I'm not a personal fan of his opinions because I don't hold falsifiability as the absolute-be-all-and-end-all of science. But if people confuse it with "fakability" that's probably their problem misunderstanding the concept behind the word, rather than a problem with the term itself.
postate 17:47, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
[edit] Creationism IS Falsifiable
This article claims creationism cannot be tested, and is therefore not science. I disagree: creationism (based on the bible) does make predictions such as evidence of a global flood, the immutability of biological "kinds" (i.e. speciation is impossible, read in Genesis about each "kind" only bringing forth after its own "kind"), ect.
These claims have been tested and investigated, and found to be false. That is why creationism is not science. User:Reasonable/sig 65.14.22.224}}
- But creationism does not make those claims. Creationism only claims that god created man/life. *some* creationists also add that the world was made in 6 days, or that Jesus was the son of man, but that is only the belief of *some* creationists. Others say things like "you only think the world was made in 4.5 billion years, cause god wanted to make it that way to test you". that fact, that god can make a flood that acts outside of the scope of all geolgical water engineering, or can make the earth **look** ** as if ** it's so old, is what makes creationism at its core, unfalsifiable.
Godot Warning, chocolate will make your clothes shrink 23:26, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
[edit] Falsifiability on Conservapedia
I just found this bit of lulz on Conservapedia's article about falsifiability. Choice quotes:
Many atheists claim that religious beliefs are inherently unfalsifiable. However, on the contrary, very many religious beliefs are capable of being falsified. Many religions predict a particular sort of afterlife; if, after death, one encountered a rather different sort of afterlife, that would falsify that religion. For example, Islam would claim that in the afterlife, one will be told that Muhammad was a true prophet and the Quran a true scripture. If, upon dying, one was not told these things - and, on the contrary, was told that Muhammad was a false prophet - that experience would falsify Islam. Thus, once we are dead, such claims will be easily falsifiable. However, the living cannot ask the dead because God prohibits the dead from coming back to testify.
How, exactly, is someone supposed to falsify an afterlife belief before they die (especially if, according to them, the dead are prohibited from coming back and telling us)? One must go on faith, which they early admit, is an unfalsiable and thus unscientific thing.
Also, many religions make assertions about matters within our ability to observe. If those assertions are falsifiable through observation, then so are the religions making the assertions. Examples of falsifiable religious assertions are assertions that the world would end within the lifetime of a certain religious figure who is now dead and assertions about the characteristics of various animals. Furthermore, if a religion makes mutually exclusive claims, falsifying that religion is a simple matter of applying a reductio ad absurdum.
How, fitting, then, that their very own Christianity has both these things. Matthew 16:28 claimed some of the disciples would die before the end of the world, while Leviticus 11:13-19 put bats into the same description as birds. As for reductio ad absurdum-this entire comment is an exercise in it. Congratulations, Conservapedia-you falsified Christianity according to your own standards. Mcc1789 (talk) 09:20, 31 December 2012 (UTC)