Talk:Feng shui

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Now this is something that's always annoyed me: afficionados tell us it's to be pronounced "fung shway" - as it's a transliteration from Chinese then why isn't it spelled that way? SJGsjg 18:03, 14 September 2007 (MDT)

Because there are many kinds of Chinese and many ways to transliterate. As I recall, "fong schway" is Mandarin, while "feng shoy" is more Cantonese. --AKjeldsenGodspeed! 18:45, 14 September 2007 (MDT)
HUMAN!!!!!! If you are refering to Wu Xing, the chinese phisosophy of elements, there are actually five. Metal, Wood, Water, Fire, and Earth. If you want to keep the joke along the same lines, Metal and Fire are easy, just use Mirrors and Candles. Earth would work with leather. Water and Wood would be a tad harder, but if you want to take the leap, water would go as lube. Wood is still the biggest problem. --*Gen. S.T. Shrink* Get to the bunker 01:53, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
Thanks, my memory failed me;) I remember reading about these and thinking I had them all covered in all my rooms. I forgot fire. I mistook leather ;) which could be earth, but of course plants are good for that. Mostly, I just let the dirt pile up. Water could be, er, you know, um, "watersports".... while "wood" seems hard, isn't it it's own joke, as I just made, really badly? Please, feel free to repair the wanton ignorant damage I did, and don't forget to mention that Wu Tang Clan guy you mentioned! Or was his name Wa Xing? A modern fetish, no doubt, but it surely has ancient... roots. ħumanUser talk:Human 02:13, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
I was doing some work with an oriental once and it was always difficult to park in their car park. Some 25% of it was permanently roped off. On enquiry I was told that it was on the instructions of the Feng shui Master. The opinions of the largely British staff can be imagined.--Bobbing up 03:40, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
Did they have a lower-than-average car park crash rate? ħumanUser talk:Human 04:08, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
Actually yes, it was about 25% less than would have been expected for a car park that size, so it must have worked.--Bobbing up 05:10, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
Probably because they used 25% percent less of their car park : D Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 05:12, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
More to the point, did they have a higher-than-average car park exasperation rate? : ) Star of David.png Radioactive afikomen Please ignore all my awful pre-2014 comments. 05:12, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
The exasperation rate was quite high. It was in a busy town centre with very little on-street parking nearby. As I remember all the plants in the building had to be in very exact positions too, and, I seem to remember that one of the private offices was kept permanently empty as well. Weird.--Bobbing up 05:30, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
Very weird. I just keep dirt, water, steel, and all that stuff in all my rooms... because I like them? ħumanUser talk:Human 06:42, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

The facing of the buildings is listed by real estate agencies not because of Feng Shui, which few people care about, but for a very concrete simple reason which is sunshine. An east/west facing apartment only get sunlight on dawn/dusk. A north facing one does not get as much as a south facing one during the day in North Hemisphere where China is located. — Unsigned, by: 209.148.169.15 / talk / contribs 01:09, 11 August 2010

Wait, so the five elements that should be present in a room are mirrors, candles, chains, leather, and paddles? To promote a favorable balance of Qi, I need to turn my apartment into a BDSM dungeon? (talk) Meshakhad 19:45, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

The quotes[edit]

In this MAJOR EDIT WAChinese http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Feng_shui&curid=6851&diff=1661422&oldid=1661421

They seem like they're about home improvement, not feng shui. No? Herr FüzzyCätPötätö (talk/stalk) 22:37, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Did you guys look at the sources at all? These are from practicing Feng Shui masters who literally describe their "science" in this way. There is no lucid reason for why these relevant and well-sourced quotes could not stay aside from a failure to actually look at the original source. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 22:38, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
If you haven't seen the Penn & Teller episode on Feng shui, where practicing, current-day Feng shui masters based out of LA get a chance to perform their "science" at length to an entire house, I warmly recommend you guys watch it. Worth noting is also that the quotes in question weren't even added by me, but by Carpetsmoker, and the quotes in question have been fairly long-standing and accepted by the community. They are well sourced, relevant, educational and snarky. They fit like a glove, in other words. Furthermore - for the duration of the discussion the status quo stands, not the hux flux blanking. You know me and I know you - nobody here is a vandal, a troll or even an edit warrior. The simple fact of the matter is that the quotes fit the page to anyone who has reviewed the source material in full. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 22:44, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
The correct home improvement is very important to establish the perfect harmony of qi, Fuzzy. 141.134.75.236 (talk) 22:46, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
Hm. Rereading, this seems true. I'd put them lower-down -- they're confusing to a reader who doesn't know what feng shui is, so they should come after the introduction. FU22YC47P07470 (talk/stalk) 22:50, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
I don't argue against placing them lower down, buddy. But Weasel blanking them out cause "whatever the fuck this is about, it doesn't sound like feng shui" is beyond derp. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 22:52, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
For fuck's sake. Feng shui is a traditional belief system & aesthetic from East Asia dating back hundreds of years. If there's a connection between that, bacon & Idaho (or whatever state it was) I doubt it exists beyond the confines of the brain of whatever idiot said this drivel. Maybe this comment had some significance in whatever piece of Bullshit it appeared in, but it's a piss-poor way to introduce an article on feng shui. ωεαşεζøίɗWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 23:26, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
It would feel more amicable to discuss with you if you weren't so fast to anger and swear in your posts, Weasel. And no, I'm not making a tone argument. I just think you deserve better from yourself, and it'd make participating in discussions with you more fun. Just a friendly heads up. Any good editor, never mind a moderator, ought to keep that in mind. Regarding the quotes: it's still very plain that you haven't actually reviewed the source material. I recommend that you do - it's edu-taining! When you contest the relevancy of the quotes without having a relevant understanding of the context and nature of the source material itself, you also help contest the relevancy of your very own complaint. Now, I'm going to re-iterate one thing right now: I can fully agree that the sourced, missional quotes in question need not be the opening quotes, but may be placed further down in the article, as they are now. What is dubious is for you to repeatedly blank out the quotes on an indefensibly poor basis, all the while maintaining a frankly sour tone - completely uncalled for. Thank you for hearing me out on this. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 00:02, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
You're lecturing me on civility right after calling me a "dolt" and "not even wrong"? Whatever.
No, I don't intend watching a load of Penn & Teller in order to make sense of this quote. If it's only meaningful in context, it's not a good thing to include unexplained within a RW article. Feng shui has its own jargon & this clearly isn't it: it's just somebody making a contrived quirky analogy about something. You can find examples of salespeople, garage mechanics, political pundits & even RW editors doing the same thing. It's not representative of feng shui & is a non-sequitur within the article, whether you put it at the top, the middle or bottom of the page. ΨΣΔξΣΓΩΙÐWeaselly.jpgMethinks it is a Weasel 18:29, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
i do not think the rest of the article is of much use either. It tells me nothing of feng shui, its just a few crappy jokes. Reads more like fun space AMassiveGay (talk) 19:04, 26 April 2016 (UTC)