Talk:Flying carpet fallacy

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First and only contribution of that user. I'm tempted to move it to Essay space.--ZooGuard (talk) 11:28, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Coffee deprived brain agrees. Tyrannisan iron, yet caring fist 12:19, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
There seem to be a few blog posts that give the idea that this is a term that has a bit of mileage. I MIGHT suggest a name change - the academic in me wants to call the article contemporary Orientalism, which, if you've read your Said, is essentially what this guy is getting at. Certainly, the ideas expressed in the article are mainspace-worthy. Father Vivian O'Blivion talkModerator 14:01, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
If there's evidence this is a term that's actually used, that was my only concern - David Gerard (talk) 07:21, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
This is an exact copy of this blog post, Delete, delete, delete.... Cloud Yeller (talk) 08:46, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
So? If it's not a copyright violation, that's fine - David Gerard (talk) 12:43, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
My point was not the potential copy-vio, it was that someone was dumping their essay around the internet. I'm not sure that that is what we are for. Cloud Yeller (talk) 13:05, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
OK, I appreciate this is a reasonable concern. I see it's been deleted as a copyvio. I've pinged the author - David Gerard (talk) 22:09, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
Actually it is not an exact copy, although I used the blog author's examples (with permission), and cleaned it up to match the format of RW. This fallacy has been used in many areas and appears in printed works as well. After talking to another editor, I'm going to restore it. SulaymanF (talk) 15:45, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

[edit] The Lump of Lumpistan

"his magic carpet takes you to a place that blurs the distinction between Muslims, Arabs, Iranians, South Asians, Turks, Afghans, and the various nations and regions they belong to. That is, what he terms as “the Muslim world,” is simply a single entity in his mind, as if 25% of the world's population is all identical in thought and action and viewed as uniquely foreign."

An old fellow I knew, who was in the business of analyzing Middle East affairs for the US defense establishment, sometimes called that straw-man place of blurred distinctions "Lumpistan," whose population is lumped into one undifferentiated mass, ignoring the living, changing ethnic groups, sects, factions, tribes, and other allegiances that make it up. Naturally, its ruler is the Lump himself. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 17:54, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Is that a neighboring country of Derkaderkastan? Nebuchadnezzar (talk) 18:21, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
Might could be, but I think Herpaderpistan is closer to Dogpatch. Seriously, my googlings mostly seem to point to a Li'l Abner strip from about 1975, but behind a paywall I do not care to go. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 18:31, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
Yes, and they both border Ubekibekibekibekistanstan. 96.61.58.35 (talk) 20:11, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
That's an interesting idea, "Lumpistan" is a good title for the "they're all alike" fallacy. Should we create that as a new idea on a separate page? SulaymanF (talk) 19:20, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
I don't know if the name was widely used, or not. Googling did not show me very much. Until someone finds out more, a mention on this talk page might be enough. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 20:22, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
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