Talk:Genocide
Thanks, PFoster. That helps a lot. Researcher 21:00, 20 December 2007 (EST)
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[edit] UncleHo...
"Genocide" does not just mean "killing a lot of people." Familiarize yourself with the fundamentals of the literature and then bring it to the talk page...TheoryOfPractice (talk) 02:51, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
[edit] Tribunals
Would it be worth making a new section on this page to cover things like the IMT, IMTFE, ICTY, ICTR, SCSL, ICC, etc etc? Or maybe we need a new page for International Criminal Law in general?Pascal yuiop (talk) 16:47, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
[edit] Falun Gong
Should we include Jiang Zemin's persecution of Falun Gong practitioners? Like, does that count as genocide?Serocco (talk) 05:39, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
- Well, after a quick glance at that other wiki, I'd say their treatment would come under Article 6(c) of the Rome Statute, "Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part." I think the main problem would be trying to define Falun Gong as a "religious group" as required by that Article. But if Buddhism = religion, then I think Falun Gong probably is as well. Do you have any reputable sources referring to it as a genocide? Pascal yuiop (talk) 07:44, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
- China Uncensored considers it genocide, and they have very extensive research about just how bad it gets. They even name names, like Bo Xilai and Zhou Yongkang as some of the worst offenders of this persecution. A judge in Argentine considers it genocide. A couple of American Congressmen referred to it as a genocide while denouncing the organ harvesting practices of the CCP. Serocco (talk) 04:04, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
- Maybe write something about genocide in the RW Falun Gong article first, then have it linked from here? Nullahnung (talk) 09:36, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
- China Uncensored considers it genocide, and they have very extensive research about just how bad it gets. They even name names, like Bo Xilai and Zhou Yongkang as some of the worst offenders of this persecution. A judge in Argentine considers it genocide. A couple of American Congressmen referred to it as a genocide while denouncing the organ harvesting practices of the CCP. Serocco (talk) 04:04, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
[edit] Disputed cases
Both examples given of disputed cases given in the page are actually largely undisputed cases that no-one considers to be genocide apart froma few fringe extremists. By contrast, some of those listed as full examples are genuinely disputed cases. FullMetalJacobin (talk) 00:31, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
- Which ones? Alec Sanderson (talk) 23:51, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
- I'd say that East Timor, the Holodomor, the Ainu and the Native American tragedy, and possibly more, are all academically disputed enough for us to classify them as such. (Just to clarify by the way, this isn't my opinion - I'd argue that all of the above except East Timor were indeed genocides, but I do think there is significant enough disagreement on them.) FullMetalJacobin (talk) 14:24, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. Alec Sanderson (talk) 13:39, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
- I'd say that East Timor, the Holodomor, the Ainu and the Native American tragedy, and possibly more, are all academically disputed enough for us to classify them as such. (Just to clarify by the way, this isn't my opinion - I'd argue that all of the above except East Timor were indeed genocides, but I do think there is significant enough disagreement on them.) FullMetalJacobin (talk) 14:24, 18 August 2014 (UTC)