Talk:Hans-Hermann Hoppe

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[edit] Time preference, risky behaviour of homosexuals

i have just made an edit in the Homophobia section of this articles describing how the allegation that gays engage in high-risk behaviour per se is not telling the full story. while it is true that gays have on average more sexual partners (btw. why is this in it of itself riskier? safe sex, anyone?), drink and smoke more, homosexuals also marry at least at the same rates than heterosexuals if not higher. since marriage is considered by any social conservative to be a desirable status due to it providing personal and financial stability it would be imperative to conclude that the picture of gays being high time preference=higher-risk is not that clear cut.
so on what stats do i base my claim that gays marry with at least the same rates as heteros? well, let's dive in, shall we? the adult population of the united states in the year was an estimated 232.637.362 according to http://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/tables/99-total-population-by-child-and-adult#national . the total number of marriages in that year was 2.077.000. that gives us a ratio of 8,9 marriages per 1000. since there are no national figures for lgbt people we have to go state by state, only counting the states that allow gay marriage. the adult lgbt population of the state of california in 2008 was 861.000 according to http://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/Gates-Ramos-CA-Snapshot-Oct-2008.pdf. in the five-moth period in 2008 during which same-sex marriage was legal before it was banned by prop 8 california performed, according to pew research, 18.000 same-sex marriages yielding a ratio of 20,9 per 1000.
to cut it short: you can do that state by state, year by year where numbers are available and you'll find that gays commit often more to marriage, THE civil institution conservatives like hoppe champion because it provides the right incentives, than heterosexuals do. EauDeCologne (talk) 18:54, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

To nitpick (not disagree), I think the early high acceptance of marriage in California is, partially, from pent up demand where a ton of folks were awaiting the availability of marriage. The fact that it is so much higher in your quick computation suggests room for it to settle down to a level that, at worst, says it's equally acceptable.
Numerical nitpicking: one thing statisticians do for fun. MarmotHead (talk) 19:21, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
hmm, ain't really nitpicking. that's a valid point you're making that i haven't taken into consideration. so one would really have to follow how year-by-year figures turn out in the long(er) run to justifiably make that claim that teh gayz (who doesn't love those pop-evo-psycho generalisations) do not marry less than us mere mortals. keeping a beady eye on it. EauDeCologne (talk) 20:50, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Short review of Democracy on /r/badphilosophy

I found this on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/badphilosophy/comments/2kbggo/im_reading_hansherman_hoppes_democracythe_god/ --ZooGuard (talk) 08:14, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

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