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[edit] apparently Islam is a "rational" religion

It didn't quite defy my expectations to see not only the article itself free from critisism of Islam, but a goon squad of editors enforcing reverence for Islam on the talk page as well.

I'm afraid to look at the Wicka page. LOL! — Unsigned, by: 24.1.56.87 / talk / contribs

Ironically, if you had added any reasonably well-written critique of Islam (or its sects, or its fundamentalists), modern or historical, here or in the article, it would probably have survived. But all you did was make a mess. humanUser talk:Human 19:49, 23 February 2008 (EST)
Er, right. Like that snark-free article on christianity you've got up there. I think I'd rather work on the mote in your eye.20:00, 23 February 2008 (EST)
Actually, reading it (which I just did, thanks for asking, motivated by your very complaints), it seems to me that it's remarkably unsnarky. Pretty inaccurate in places, but that's mostly down to common misconceptions. --מְתֻרְגְּמָן שְׁלֹום
I'll go add some snark, stat. PFoster 20:04, 23 February 2008 (EST)
Go forth with my approval, my dense friend. My point is that you're a hypocrite. 20:08, 23 February 2008 (EST)
Thanks for the approval and go ahead, bunchanumbers. We were vervous about snarking teh Islam until you clued us in. Ever think that, for better or for worse, most of us are way more familiar with Christianity than with Islam? humanUser talk:Human
I'm starting to wonder if this isn't Dr. Dolittle back again: similar pattern - axe to grind, pseudo-knowledge about Islam, atrocious grammar and spelling...PFoster 19:56, 23 February 2008 (EST)
Isn't this website an axe-grinding effort? I mean, you're just a troll from the other site. Are you going to be all huffy and officious now with a brother troll?20:04, 23 February 2008 (EST)
Constructive comments like that are what make our talk pages the awesomeness of teh innertubes!! humanUser talk:Human 22:17, 23 February 2008 (EST)

As a new editor here, perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but why is the Islam page so polite? Is Islam, founded by an illiterate dude who met God in a cave, that much more rational and worthy of our respect than Christ killing demons using pigs, or a Mormon's magic underwear? Or is it part of an anti-Western culture kind of thing?Morgan 18:08, 30 January 2009 (EST)

No, we just aren't as familiar with Islam as we are with Christianity. It's hard to make fun of the unknown. But, this is a wiki, so if you feel the article avoids taking a critical tone, then change it. Star of David.png Radioactive Misanthrope 03:11, 31 January 2009 (EST)
Not to be biased about anything, but a guy meeting his god in a cave while meditating and researching truth sounds better to me than someone who wacthes a burning bush talk to him.MCAsomm (talk) 13:35, 8 January 2015 (UTC) 08:34, 8 January 2015 (EST)
Slightly. Cømrade FυzzчCαтPøтαтø (talk/stalk) 13:46, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

[edit] No such thing as 'extremist' Islam

Islam is extreme, it's unforgiving, you are either a full muslim or you aren't— Unsigned, by: 86.11.102.64 / talk / contribs

Your claim contradicts observed reality.--ZooGuard (talk) 10:38, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
As said, you are either a muslim or you aren't. The quran is very clear on the issue and says that anyone who leaves the religion should be murdered:http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/index.htm

Islam is extreme. In the West they dare not behave like they do in their own countries for fear of reprisals. Here is proof that islam is evil:http://www.thereligionofpeace.com(Kaneda (talk) 19:40, 1 June 2013 (UTC))

Interestingly there are fatwas ordering Muslims to talk about peace and tolerance as long as they are minorities but once demographics kick in sharia law is to be implemented. Several countries in Europe will have Muslim majorities within 20 or 30 years so a lot of us will see how this will turn out. Theocracy, here we go!— Unsigned, by: 91.44.31.232 / talk / contribs 04:35, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

[edit] Confusion in regards to the split between Sunni and Shi'a

The section explaining the difference between Sunni and Shi'a skims over a few details. Most importantly, it says Ali was expected to become the first Caliph but was then assassinated, implying he never became Caliph, when in fact he was fourth and it is disagreement over whether this line of succession (the vailidity of the first four Caliphs) was right that predominately caused the split. I would edit this myself, but my phone's a bit tempermental right now and there's also the chance I'm completely wrong so I'm posting here just in case 49.176.36.36 (talk) 22:19, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

[edit] "extremism"

Here's a good one that needs to be fit in somewhere: the word "extremism" is of Greek origin, hence an ungodly innovation imported from non-Islamic culture. Muslim scholars label an "extremist" one who prays 6 times a day, rather than the proscribed five. nobsIt all depends what ISIS is. 20:13, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Bismillah ir-Rahman ir-Rahim: Rob needs to learn the meaning of "proscribed" and hire a better proofreader. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 20:51, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
mmm maybe yes maybe no. The text I'm working from reads, " Muslims who pray more than the explicitly proscribed five times a day are likely motivated by love for God. They are, however, still engaged in innovation (bid‘a[wp]) because they are inventing new practices to fulfill a human desire." Fulfilling human desires and innovations violate the text of the Qur'an. pg. 210. nobsIt all depends what ISIS is. 06:17, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
So the source says it is explicitly forbidden to pray five times a day? So much for that source. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 13:04, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
Not the source, the Salafist view of a doctrine of enumerated powers. Anything that is not explicitly prescribed or proscribed in the Qu'ran is an innovation or human interpretation, and the Qu'ran is not subject to human interpretation. There is only one truth as spelled out in the Qu'ran. nobsIt all depends what ISIS is. 15:24, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
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