Talk:James O'Keefe

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[edit] Possible addition?

Today: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/11/10/james-okeefe-laughed-out-of-journalism-school/ --Sethpeck (talk) 18:15, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Organization

This article was originally set up chronologically, which worked well because the "Misfires" were in succession prior to the NPR and Teacher's attacks. Now the voting thing has gone blammo. It's been added to Misfires, but that puts the order out of whack. Should we leave it as it is, move it to chronological order at the bottom, or reorganize/rewrite and ignore chronological order?--ADtalkModerator 20:36, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

I added that one...I think chronologically makes more sense, so reorder as needed. -- Seth Peck (talk) 16:31, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
I think that chronological order for the stings section would be a good idea. The ACORN thing happened before the Planned Parenthood thing.--"Shut up, Brx." 02:45, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
The ACORN sting was years after the Planned Parenthood sting.--ADtalkModerator 02:47, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Really? Huh. Was he the one that pretended to be a pimp looking to procure abortions for his underage hookers?--"Shut up, Brx." 02:49, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Yes.--ADtalkModerator 02:51, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
I recall hearing about that after the ACORN incident --"Shut up, Brx." 02:52, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Unless I was very much mistaken when I wrote this article, the PP sting was in 2006, whereas the ACORN stings were in 2008.--ADtalkModerator 02:53, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
NYT--ADtalkModerator 02:55, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
I guess I just wasn't paying attention when PP first came up, then.--"Shut up, Brx." 02:56, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

[edit] unnecessary pronoun

Yeah, but it seems so awkward without it. I guess you're the language professor, though.--"Shut up, Brx." 02:50, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Moran Moron

Should that be under misfires? Also, Voter Fraud part II is confusing. Did they obtain ballots that weren't theirs or something? Is that what they were trying for?--"Shut up, Brx." 22:02, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Why would it be under misfires? It was completely successful - the guy resigned within the day in shame.
I will take a look at the other section and see if the language needs to be clarified (or you can do it if you see the problem). Yes, they were getting ballots in the names of other people.--ADtalkModerator 22:09, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
I didn't look at the section headings and assumed everything below "Misfires" was in the Misfires section. Also, if you can just get some stranger's ballot, wouldn't that be something to worry about? I mean, can I show up and say I'm John Smith, and then vote on behalf of some guy named John Smith? --"Shut up, Brx." 22:22, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
Voter fraud is an almost nonexistent problem. O'Keefe's efforts are part of the conservative smear campaign to try to pretend it is a huge deal, because that allows them to institute steadily more restrictive requirements to vote. Poll taxes and tests have been banned by SCOTUS, so draconian ID requirements are the only way to stop minorities from casting their vote for Democrats.
So yes, in theory it would be something to worry about. You could try to vote again under someone else's name, or something like that. In practice, very few people risk years of prison for themselves to incrementally affect the results.--ADtalkModerator 23:00, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
Here in Arizona, there's an issue where voter ID cards have the wrong election date listed--"Shut up, Brx." 23:10, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
The level 4 headlines under misfires are nearly indistinguishable from the level 3 headlines. This was the source of my confusion. I think it'd be nice if things were reorganized without level 4 headlines. But I don't know how. Bullet points, maybe?--"Shut up, Brx." 23:12, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
Better?--ADtalkModerator 00:24, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
I'm come to be reluctant to go with level one headlines, but that looks better, thank you.--"Shut up, Brx." 00:27, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Dildos

The link between seducing a reporter and planting a fake news story with CNN makes no sense. Is there a clearer narrative out there? Theory of Practice Still tryin' to figure it all out. 00:45, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Not that I know of - I agree, it doesn't make any sense.--ADtalkModerator 00:59, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
From what I gathered, he was going to get her in the sack with some kinky shit, somehow feed her a false news story, and bust her and prove shes just some sexual deviant woman who needs a man to get her back into the kitchen.
Seriously. --Revolverman (talk) 01:02, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
Wow. Can you write that into the article? Theory of Practice Still tryin' to figure it all out. 01:07, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
Sure. --Revolverman (talk) 01:13, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
Done. --Revolverman (talk) 01:18, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
Last thought. Just look how many of these "stings" have a sexual vibe to them. This guy isn't just a dishonest asshole, hes creepy as fuck. --Revolverman (talk) 01:22, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
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