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[edit] cover story

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This is a source of confusion for most westeners. A trap for pseudoscientific theories to prevail, the original story of Macedonia and the Macedonians that had nothing to do with the late 20th century slavs claiming the name. It is a story spanning literally thousands of years from Ancient Greece to Middle Ages to Balkan Wars and a Cold-War induced Civil War in modern Greece. Hope you find my two cents on this wiki useful.— Unsigned, by: 83.235.191.12 / talk / contribs

Actually, I don't think that this is ready for cover story, though it makes interesting reading. Firstly, I'm not sure this is very on-mission. There may be some pseudohistory, but I don't really see the pseudoscience link. Secondly, parts of it don't read very well. Finally, a few links to substantiate the claims would be nice.--BobNot Jim 12:30, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
It's as on-mission as any other of our country articles is. But it's nowhere near a cover story, and is a long, long way from ever being one. RaoulDuke 12:36, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
My question about the mission was related to the suggestion that it be made a cover article. I was not suggesting that we delete it.--BobNot Jim 12:41, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
I also have notice that the term "pseudoscience" frequently gets misused. It should be renamed "pseudohistory". Redchuck.gif ГенгисRationalWiki GOLD member 13:23, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Furthermore, the nomination as a cover story by the main author is rather presumptious in my opinion. Redchuck.gif ГенгисRationalWiki GOLD member 13:28, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
I thought that too. An IP editor to boot. But then I thought we should just judge it on its merits.--BobNot Jim 13:33, 6 October 2009 (UTC)


[i]Roosevelt[/i] administration? In the 19[i]50[/i]s? — Unsigned, by: 82.38.206.148 / talk / contribs

[edit] Current version is shit

And this is what happens when you let a member of one Balkan nation edit the article of another Balkan nation. :( Not that I'm not going to totally rewrite it... (And in case you don't get it, I'm a member of a third Balkan nation.)--ZooGuard (talk) 20:04, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Agree.--il'Dictator Mikal 20:07, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
I once dated a girl from a Balkan nation. And I agree. ТyrannisPlead 20:09, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

everything until 20th century seems an easy cut to me. Thoughts? ТyrannisPlead 21:22, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm going to continue with the rewrite tomorrow. As for the history, anything about the Balkans should at least mention the Ottoman Empire, as this is the most recent common ancestor of our problems.--ZooGuard (talk) 21:26, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
Gotcha. ТyrannisPlead 21:28, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Name suggestions

Can't they just call it "Slavic Republic of Macedonia"? A nice tribute to both Slavic Macedonian and Slavic nationality. Then the "real" Macedonians would call themselves "Macedonians" and problem would be solved. We could incorporate suggestions for solving the naming dispute. -- DasRationalpersone Socks cat 1.JPG (Annoy me!) 13:21, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

[edit] Are the Slav-Macedonians ancient Macedonians?

Hey you did a wrong. They're Slavs and many Bulgarians. They don't come from the Ancient Macedonia which was Greek-speaking with Greek gods and Greek culture generally. The ancient Macedonians were Greeks from Peloponessus from the Argread dynasty.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argead_dynasty

The only thing that they have for proof that they're Macedonians is that after the Greek civil war they kidnapped 30,000+ children from Macedonia and other places & took them to the Yugoslav part of Vardaska(North Macedonia).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Civil_War#Communist_evacuation_of_the_children_and_the_Queen.27s_Camps

That's it. .--Valerios 24 July 2013

Right. 94.196.243.109 (talk) 16:29, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
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