Talk:Medical marijuana

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[edit] Negative Slant

I'm reluctant to rewrite a whole article and I'm not sure how much of this is my personal (pro marijuana) bias but this article seems to imply that medical majiuana is alterntive medicine and quackery. To quote (steal) from WP (excuse the broken links)

Dozens of medical organizations have endorsed allowing patients access to medical marijuana with their physicians' approval. These include, but are not limited to, the following:

Doesn't this imply that medical marijuana is a valid, medically endorsed treatment? Silver Sloth 10:55, 12 June 2008 (EDT)

The article is a bit weird, it looks like it might have been written by duelling "argue by editing" authors. Anyway, the bit about Laetrile at the end is weird, and the "main arguments" for legalizing MM are that it actually has genuine uses. I added the AIDS appetite thing, also, it can be used as a simple analgesic-type thing - to alleviate pain/suffering due to some conditions. It also makes Pink Floyd sound like they play fast songs. ħumanUser talk:Human 18:44, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
And I really don't understand why it is catted as "alternative medicine". ħumanUser talk:Human 18:45, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
It's alternative medicine for the same reason someone taking any other herb in its natural form is alternative medicine. If the active ingredient in medical marijuana (presumably THC) were isolated and manufactured to strict pharmaceutical standards in measurable doses, that would be a different story. The difference between the two would be the same as the difference between willow bark and aspirin. One is a known quantity taken in a standard dosage, the other could contain any of a wide range of the active substance and preference for it over the pharmaceutically-manufactured stuff is in any case a bunch of nature woo. Secret Squirrel 21:47, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
Yes, but Big Pharma is working on the "active ingredient" pill, to avoid the side effects (of smoking, and other chemicals). Sorry, but I have to disagree with you, SS - MM is not "nature woo", it's as valid as "willow bark makes my teeth not hurt" - a genuine observation (smoking pot makes me hungry, which is good since my AIDS makes me not so), that science is struggling to isolate and improve upon - while dealing with an "illegal substance". ħumanUser talk:Human 22:20, 30 March 2009 (EDT)
I think the point, though, is, do you actually chew willow bark to make your teeth stop hurting, or do you go out an get an aspirin? The variables in even eating high-THC cannabis, much less smoking it, make it an alternative medicine. Sake Fueled (talk) 15:57, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Its very hard to follow what this article is saying it's jumping all over the place and it has absolutely no flow to it. Also I think the use of the word alternative medicine needs to be clarified because of the negative connotations it holds. While I agree with the user above who pointed out the difference between alternative medicine and pharmaceuticals it has been proven that medicinal marijuana does have bona fide uses unlike other alt medicine "treatments" like echinacea that are completely useless. Sammygirl

The last sentence should be the first(with links to stories), the rest is just seems like the article is arguing with itself — Unsigned, by: 99.9.128.56 / talk / contribs

Did you read the above comments? Sometimes that's what our articles go through (and some never come out of it...) ħumanUser talk:Human 05:04, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] References

  1. 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 "The American College of Physicians Position Paper". The American College of Physicians. 2008. http://www.acponline.org/advocacy/where_we_stand/other_issues/medmarijuana.pdf. Retrieved 2008-02-20. 

[edit] Medical woo

As this is rationalwiki,I was expecting more of a IT'S WOO slant, not a "its a good idea" slant. There are no serious benefits of marijuana, aside from Placebo effects.23.16.216.31 (talk) 22:13, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

"But I thought this was supposed to be RATIONALWiki!" Drink! Scarlet A.pngnarchist 22:40, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
So cannabinoids are placebos now, I wonder what's up with having an entire cannabinoid system in our brains if it's all placebo. C6541 (talk) 23:25, 14 September 2012 (UTC)


The essay states 'The main argument in favor of medical marijuana is a moral one: that the government should not be dictating what an informed person can and cannot put into their own body' This surely is the main argument against. Medical drugs are always illegal except when sanctioned by the state by a 'prescription'. Do we really need to go to the authorities in order for them to 'allow' us to toke on a spliff? WTF! http://www.szasz.com/cannabis.html " The advocates of medical marijuana have embraced a tactic that retards the repeal of drug prohibition and reinforces the moral legitimacy of prevailing drug policies. Instead of steadfastly maintaining that the war on drugs is an intrinsically evil enterprise, the reformers propose replacing legal sanctions with medical tutelage, a principle destined to further expand the medical control of everyday behavior." --Dirk Steele (talk) 17:18, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
Not even wrong. NSAID's are available OTC. Don't try to claim they aren't "medical drugs." Wanker. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 17:23, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
Ok I accept that. I love to take aspirin rather than smoke opium. But what have the Romans ever done for us? Dirk Steele (talk) 17:28, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
Roman Red was a pleasant fiction. Take your polemics somewhere else. Sprocket J Cogswell (talk) 17:38, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
What have I said that is controversial? Dirk Steele (talk) 17:42, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
As usual Sprocket - what you do not say is always more profound than your words. Dirk Steele (talk) 17:58, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

[edit] Anticonvulsant? Also Marinol?

Isn't it touted as an anticonvulsant as well? I don't see any mention of this on the page. (I believe research says no.)

Also, the article mentions Marinol, but it fails to point out that it is in fact legal (to prescribe - Sched. III), so all of this is the equivalent of touting opium over morphine. 75.67.160.30 (talk) 04:34, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

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