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Talk:Moon landing hoax

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[edit] Cover! (sticky)

As per Osaka Sun's suggestions, I humbly nominate this article for cover. Thoughts? --|₹Λ¥$€₦₦ Red rose 02.svg "Ritsuko, the truth is[...]" "Huh. You liar" 00:19, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Contains a wealth of info and is about a fairly well-recognised conspiracy theory. Needs a bit of copy-editing. Nullahnung (talk) 00:24, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
And a lot of other stuff. I'll see what I can do.--ZooGuard (talk) 09:44, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Key question: in what ways do we outdo the Wikipedia article on the subject? Do we cover everything useful that they do? What can we do that they can't? - David Gerard (talk) 15:10, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Outdoing Wikipedia would probably require writing a lot more than one article on the subject...--ZooGuard (talk) 15:52, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
We need to be more than Wikipedia-lite ... - David Gerard (talk) 16:38, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

I'm going to expand the article and create and expand its supporting articles (e.g. the major conspiracists) in the next few days. A few things I'd like to get feedback on:

  • Should the bit about the prevalence be expanded? In general, I think that one should make a difference between "casual" believers, conspiracy junkies and the "researchers" who start various conspiracy memes.
  • Also, should there be coverage of the history of hoax claims?
  • Do things like Capricorn One and Alternative 3' warrant a mention? If yes, where?

--ZooGuard (talk) 14:37, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Yes, yes and yes. For these purposes, our unique selling point over WP is that we can include opinions and less-than-Wikipedia-quality sources - David Gerard (talk) 15:12, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
One of the reasons I asked is because Wikipedia's article covers such things (especially the first point) better than RW's current version. :) --ZooGuard (talk) 16:22, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
I haven't forgotten about this, I just have had little free time. :( --ZooGuard (talk) 13:58, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
So ... how you feeling about it now? (I'm going "oops, that was two months ago wasn't it") - David Gerard (talk) 19:04, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

[edit] The joke sections

Any idea what to do with "Moon landing" and "Moon landing hoax hoax", including their footnotes? The Occam's Razor footnote is a bit of a non-sequitur. Should they have some kind of better indication that this is humor/sarcasm? Template:Lie? Also note that a few people do believe that the hoax accusations have been started by the US government as a disinformation campaign.--ZooGuard (talk) 16:21, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Anyone? I'm tempted to feed them to the crows.--ZooGuard (talk) 14:37, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
Axed 'em. The joke pictures did all the necessary comic relief, if you ask me. --|₹Λ¥$€₦₦ Red rose 02.svg Masturbation masturbation pies pies Brian Cox 15:18, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Renominating

I renominate this for cover. Herr FüzzyCätPötätö (talk/stalk) 20:57, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

[edit] The question is

Why go to all that trouble when it would be much simpler to set the criteria for 'landing safe, land at captain's call, unsafe to land - go round the moon and get photographs etc' somewhat more rigorously than necessary ('and we will land a man on the moon on the 10th anniversary of JFK's announcement'). NASA would face only mild flak for 'admitting we were far too cautious - but subsequent parts of the moon program were much safer' )and there would be far fewer possibilities for 'the inconsistency that unravels it all'/'somebody collecting information to sell to the papers to pay for their retirement' etc. (talk) 15:44, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Mars landing hoax

Should this have a subsection here or a page of its own?

[1] is spoof, but [2], [3] and various others (making various references to 'the usual suspects') appear to believe what they are saying. (There are also Voyager is a hoax websites)

(And a blue telephone box will be landing on Earth next month) (talk) 15:20, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

[edit] nVidia debunks lighting problem

Might be useful. Zero (talk - contributions) 07:13, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

[edit] "Tito did it"

I would not say that "Tito did it", but there is always some truth in it... Fact is that Croatian scientists worked on the Apollo 11 module. Secondly von Braun was indeed reading Potocnik's book. I do not know what is the source of this document, but it obviously existed at least something which was called "Spaceflight cargo from Yugoslavia shiftmen logistics Codename 1182/S" http://shrani.si/f/40/6J/DW5oD0f/cargo1.jpg http://shrani.si/f/3Y/10O/qJXxtDR/cargo2.jpg— Unsigned, by: / talk 11:14, 21 December 2014 (UTC)‎

I've got to say that I don't find those those two grainy pics evidence of anything at all. And I have no idea by what you mean when you write "but there is always some truth in it". What on Earth is this supposed to mean?--Bob"I think you'll find it's more complicated than that." 11:53, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

I wanted to say that there is always some truth in rumors...— Unsigned, by: / talk 17:21, 23 December 2014‎ (UTC)

Then you were wrong.--Bob"I think you'll find it's more complicated than that." 07:41, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Top 7 scientists who worked on the Apollo 11 were Yugoslavs, one of them died in 2013... He was a croatian. Sadly I can not remember his name.— Unsigned, by: / talk 00:43, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

And a bunch of the parts were made by Rocket City rednecks. Point? PacWalker 09:26, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Point is, "Pay attention to timestamps and don't resurrect threads that have run their course" (the bot will eat them in due time). Aside from that, you are making the major mistake of accepting the BoN's unsourced assertion as fact.--ZooGuard (talk) 09:30, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
...Oopsie. And I don't accept it so much as I challenge its relevance/importance. PacWalker 09:34, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

[edit] We went to the Moon, but...

There is a gold-level crank here who says we went to the Moon, but that we detonated a nuclear warhead there to get rid of an alien base (the video presented as proof was just the product of a local animation company). Would it fit well here or it's worth of its page? — Unsigned, by: / talk / contribs

On talk pages, please sign your comments using four tildes (~~~~) or by clicking on the sign button: SigButt.png on the toolbar above the edit panel. (You can indent successive talk page comments using one more colon (:) for each line.) Thank you. Anyways, it certainly sounds missional enough, though likely not sufficient for its own page. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 08:22, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Never mind, he's already mentioned here: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Moon_landing_hoax#Real_landings.2C_fake_pictures --Panzerfaust (talk) 17:58, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

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