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[edit] Can NN's political position be easily characterised?

Sorta wingnutty-to-conspiracist, sorta hard-green with global warming denial, sorta WTF ... perhaps a section just outlining political positions taken by Adams? - David Gerard (talk) 08:23, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

It's like third positionism but without the authoritarianism. Osaka Sun (talk) 09:53, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
I'll take a look later today (it's 5:15 a.m!!!) and see what I can do. I'd really love this to be another "gold" article. The biggest problem is that Adams is so fuckin' crazy that it's hard to label him. Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 10:20, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
I don't think NN has a political position. Adams has found a good source of income by posing as the Health Ranger to sell snake oil and will publish each and any woo conspiracy to reinforce that. He's a con artist - and con artists don't have positions, political or otherwise. Doxys Midnight Runner (talk) 11:06, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
I wonder how much he buys his own bullshit. I mean, if he were secretly busted gobbling Big Macs, that'd be clear. But do we have actual evidence he doesn't believe what he says? I don't think mere logical incoherence is sufficient to claim malice or contempt - David Gerard (talk) 16:53, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
This totally needs to go gold - David Gerard (talk) 16:53, 9 August 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Gold/cover status?

What is keeping this article from "gold" status and from being on the front page? I'd like to polish it up enough to get it there. Multiple search engine sources (Google, Duckduckgo, Yahoo) show that we are the Number 1 skeptical source of information on this topic, so getting this on the cover can only help that. Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 19:19, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

I concur, we really want this to be a cover article. Hmm ... the sections from "2013 predictions" on are a bit weak and need severe tightening - David Gerard (talk) 20:38, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

[edit] anonym.to blocked by Firefox

Firefox is throwing a security/phishing warning for anonym.to links. We should look into replacing them with a similar service that doesn't trigger the alarm in popular browsers otherwise readers won't be able to read the references easily. —Tom Morris (talk) 12:19, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

How annoyance. I suppose there's archive.org and archive.today links - David Gerard (talk) 12:47, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Nominate for cover article

99 references and quite readable. αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (talk/stalk) 15:06, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

I like the idea. Time for FURIOUS NITPICKING!!
  • Does every reference check out?
  • Can we use something other than anonym.to, given that's in Google's malware shitlist? (Perhaps a template that uses a redirector, so we can change the template in one place rather than links in 99.)
  • Anything seriously missing?
-David Gerard (talk) 15:39, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
I've changed Template:Unref to use donotlink as its default, since that provider is good with Chrome and does the same job. αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (talk/stalk) 19:27, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Didn't work. Reverted. αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (talk/stalk) 19:41, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
I changed it back to ZooGuard's original, just using google.com. αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (talk/stalk) 19:45, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Ok, but now let's get out of fine-toothed combs and really go through every aspect of this article. It's gotta be absolutely perfect for ti to be worth cover status. Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 08:51, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Any objections?

I'd like to up this to cover story status, unless there are any blatant problems. αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (talk/stalk) 03:28, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

*cough* αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (talk/stalk) 21:47, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
Sounds good. I'll put a "last call" on the saloon bar - David Gerard (talk) 12:03, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
It's outside of the parts of the clogosphere than I keep an eye on, so I can't tell if something is missing. About what's here: it's uneven, with some things receiving disproportionate coverage (e.g. the predictions list that also suffers from lack of context and commentary).--ZooGuard (talk) 12:13, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Yeah ... I'm not convinced those sections are worth keeping, at least at full length. I am tempted to characterise the list rather than write it out in full. Were any specific predictions not actually wrong? etc. - David Gerard (talk) 16:24, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
For now, I've collapsed it below. It can be worked on and maybe added again. Other possibly unnecessary sections are NaturalNews#Email_spam, NaturalNews#Creative_endeavors, and NaturalNews#Twitter_silliness. Thoughts? αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (gossip/stalk) 17:18, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
The email spam and creative endeavours are relevant. The Twitter tantrum could be compressed - David Gerard (talk) 18:43, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Looks good. Shall I give it a day, then gold it? oʇɐʇoԀʇɐϽʎzznℲ (gossip/stalk) 18:54, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Barring strenuous (actionable) objection, sure - David Gerard (talk) 19:19, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

So, you golding this? It's not hard, just tedious. Would help if we had an image for the cover blurb, but e.g. Poe's law doesn't have one - David Gerard (talk) 16:01, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

[edit] Predictions

Collapsed, can be added later.

Ey. αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (gossip/stalk) 17:18, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

[edit] stray references

[edit] Pissed at us

@NaturalNews_txt "only site worse is the "rationalwiki" site which exist purely to promote abject stupidity and muffle any progress concerning enlightenment." Scream!! (talk) 17:55, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

HOW DID THEY KNOW?!1!
Was it a commenter or the site itself? Sir ℱ℧ℤℤϒℂᗩℑᑭƠℑᗩℑƠ (talk/stalk) 18:50, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
No Idea - pure chance I found the tweet! Scream!! (talk) 19:51, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
That twitter's supposedly quotes by NN, but Google can't find that quote anywhere on the Internet - David Gerard (talk) 23:39, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
^. Give Google 24 hours, let's see if whatever page it's on gets crawled. αδελφός ΓυζζγςατΡοτατο (talk/stalk) 00:02, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
Here it is. Just some NN supporter. Ah well. oʇɐʇoԀʇɐϽʎzznℲ (talk/stalk) 20:00, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
And WMF apparently "founded" the other wiki. Chronological impossibility, but hey. PacWalker 20:04, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
"Progress concerning enlightenment" is one of the most amusing euphemisms for "My incorrect beliefs" that I've ever seen. ikanreed You probably didn't deserve that 20:38, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
It honestly sounds like a Conservapedia slogan, maybe about the Bible Project. FüzzyCätPötätö (talk/stalk) 20:43, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

[edit] right on the front page of his website i found this

Hundreds of children brain damaged by the swine flu vaccine to receive $90 million in financial compensation from UK government when did the swine flu vaccine cause brain damage? and also this Like any ecosystem, our bodies host trillions of bacterial cells that affect our everyday health No shit Sherlock Bubba41102 (talk) 15:57, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

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