Talk:Oscar Wilde

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As it stands this is a list of semi-relavent quotations. Tytalk 21:03, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Isn't Oscar Wilde nothing but quotations? ADK...I'll kill your Suzuki! 21:34, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
You're thinking of Shakespeare, methinks, Scream!! (talk) 21:46, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

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Delete. Important in LGBT rights history, and for which he desrves a mention in a relevant article here, but that's all his RWness amounts to. Sophiebecause liberals 13:31, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Agree. ТySerious Business Guy 14:14, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Yup. P-Foster Talk ""Santorum is the cream rising to the top."" 14:16, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Disagree. His open sexuality landed him in prison. Would you wipe Martin Luther King because he was just a bit player in enabling civil rights?--Brendiggg (talk) 14:27, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
So put it in a relevant example, or have articles about every victim of anti-LGBT legislation. Sophiebecause liberals 14:32, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
No. Wilde is notable for being the first prominent individual to be openly gay in the western world for over 2000 years. Don't you get it?--Brendiggg (talk) 14:39, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Wilde wasn't openly gay - he was outed by his libel case against Queensberry. Byron, decades before, was openly bi. Sophiebecause liberals 14:47, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
I was a little hyperbolic there, I admit. He is still notable nonetheless for being among the first to be persecuted for his sexuality in the modern era.--Brendiggg (talk) 15:01, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
wp:Simeon Solomon, wp:Lord Arthur Somerset (1851–1926) and wp:Jean Baptista von Schweitzer were earlier. Wilde's fame as a victim of anti-homosexual laws depends in part on a successful rehabilitation campaign, the same sort of thing that is now being done for Alan Turing. This high profile has led to a slightly distorted sense of the history of the case. His prosecution didn't create an outcry against a bad law - rather it let to public revulsion, and the sudden end of his career, in a similar manner to the fall of Gary Glitter a few years ago. We love us some Wilde today, but they didn't then. Sophiebecause liberals 15:19, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
But who the hell are those guys? Did you know them before you looked them up?--Brendiggg (talk) 15:32, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
My apologies, I should have just spouted whatever was in my head instead of looking stuff up. Sophiebecause liberals 15:45, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
Well they hardly count as notable. Oh and by comparing Wilde's situation to Gary Glitter's situation (or even mentioning him), you just killed a hundred adorable fairies in your own garden.--Brendiggg (talk) 15:53, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
We don't do notability, we do missionality. Also , Wilde and Glitter are comparable because they were both done for acts that were both illegal and socially unacceptable. That Wilde's crime is rightly no longer a crime (and Glitter's rightly still is) makes the difference between them. Also, the hundred adorable fairies will make a good compost. Also also, this talk page is better than the article. Sophiebecause liberals 16:03, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
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