Talk:Pentti Linkola

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The entry for Pentti Linkola is prejudicial and judgemental. The reference to "Bob Phelps" is unhelpful and appears designed to categorize Linkola in a way that may suit the author of this article, but which is not necessarily how Linkola would see himself. I examined the linked article on "hard greens". This too is unnecessarily judgemental and is written in a way that discourages discussion or improvement. I did attempt to alter the entry on Linkola based on my careful reading of his book "Can Life Prevail?", but my edits were promptly reversed. I find this odd, as the existing entry does not indicate a first-hand familiarity with Linkola's thought and writings. Can we please have an openness to a more rational, fuller discussion of Pentti Linkola's views? — Unsigned, by: Myrmecia / talk / contribs

Quit complaining about how the article offends your sensibilities and start talking about exactly how it is inaccurate; you might get more of an audience that way. (You will also note that I put most of your edit back in the article.) Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX 06:06, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

I personally think the bad guy in Ghost Protocol must have an avatar in the real world. This sounds exactly like him. Wehpudicabok (talk) 00:02, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

This article does not represent fairly Linkolas ideology, writings or character. It quote-mines, misrepresents and has ad hominem characterizations. In general, while controversial, he represents a choice of cutting back either consumerism OR population, the rationale being that current population can not sustain current rate of consumption of natural resources. He does not advocate "complete de-industrialization", this is a clear factual error. Also "even most other hard greens want nothing to do with him" is false statement, as he is higly regarded, if not controversial character in many green movements. He was one of the main figures at the start of the Finnish green movement in the early '80s. Later he is the founder of Luonnonperintösäätiö / The Finnish Natural Heritage Foundation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Nature_Heritage_Foundation, http://luonnonperintosaatio.fi/english/index). While Linkola considers himself an atheist, he is a favored speaker within the evangelic lutherian church of Finland (in Finnish: http://evl.fi/EVLUutiset.nsf/0/B628F16DEEF92E5FC2257D38003EAA92?opendocument&lang=FI) when matters of environmental protection are discussed (the church owns large amounts of forest). Quote "If there were a button I could press, I would sacrifice myself without hesitating, if it meant millions of people would die." is taken out of context. He was asked in an interview that if population is a problem, should he not kill himself? Linkola answered with the quote, meaning that killing himself would be pointless without a notable effect. He then eloborated that he did not believe people killing themselves would resolve the problems of overpopulation. Linkola is also a notable pacifist (see for example: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16059849-is-nmaan-ja-ihmisen-puolesta---mutta-ei-ket-n-vastaan). All in all this article is a parody of sensational journalism.— Unsigned, by: 87.95.73.89 / talk / contribs

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