Talk:Post flood animal survival

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Because the Bible is a book, not to mention a book considered by many to be the inspired word of God, it should be capitalized as all proper nouns are. Clustering illusionist 01:05, 3 August 2007 (CDT)

Read the book before you post on something you haven't read.[edit]

If you would have read the Bible from Genesis 1:1 through the flood, you would have known that ALL animals and including man pre-flood ate vegetation not other animals. Gen 1:30 How long does a hay bale last? Since I have worked on a farm in my youth I can tell you a bale of hay will last for more than a year, provided it has been kept dry. Third, most animals have a "hibernation" reaction when faced with food shortage, cold or warm weather, and other environmental events. http://animals.howstuffworks.com/animal-facts/hibernation.htm/printable Therefore, most if not all the animals could have entered a hibernation state where just a small quantity of food would have been needed. — Unsigned, by: 24.248.192.194 / talk / contribs

No, no, no. Animals that do not normally hibernate do not just randomly enter hibernation states when faced with food shortages. They starve (look at deer for a great example). If an animal does not hibernate, they will not, unless god did it. Z3rotalk 17:36, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Abel was no vegetarian. Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX 16:51, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
(EC)Another fundie who doesn't really know their Bible. Animals were herbivores before the fall not the flood. Unless you think Abel's livestock were just for show, or that the fat portions from the first born of his flock which he burned in an offering to Yahweh were killed only for the fat and that he tossed the rest of the meat... — Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs 16:54, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Even Woodmorappe (who teh fundies luv) puts dried meat on the ark. — Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs 17:08, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Why would there be dried meat on the ark? Just for the animals? Man wasn't give permission to eat meat until after Noah left the ark. I suppose they would raise sheep for wool, since they knew they were naked. Does it matter that Woodmorappe's theory matches mine? Show me where it speaks of animals eating other animals pre-flood. Maybe I'm mistaken. And Abel ate meat?
Estivation is like hibernation in hot weather. Animals that live in deserts or tropical climates practice estivation. It may not occur solely because of food supply issues, as with hibernation, but because the conditions become too hot and dry for the animal to survive. http://animals.howstuffworks.com/animal-facts/hibernation.htm/printable — Unsigned, by: 24.248.192.194 / talk / contribs
See if you can learn to answer the points presented you in debate; it makes things go so much faster. And in future, sign your posts by placing four tildes at the end. Mjollnir.svgListenerXTalkerX 19:32, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Try addressing points; animals that do not hibernate, will not hibernate! And your link says nothing similar to this. My wife is a zookeeper, works with all kinds of animals, has her degree in zoology, and animals that don't hibernate will not hibernate. Z3rotalk 19:34, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
What do you think Abel did with his livestock? Why would he kill the first born of his livestock? Why would he only offer Yahweh the fat? What did he do with the rest? — Unsigned, by: Neveruse513 / talk / contribs 19:38, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't know that hay would last in a wet, soggy boat for 40 days. Think of the mildew! Sterile wedgie 01:34, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

So - animals were herbivorous before the flood? I must admit that's a new one. Though I suspect that arguing about what the Little Book of Myths says or does not say is not going to prove very fruitful. When there is a problem or inconsistency one only has to invoke a little miracle and the problem goes away.--Bobbing up 07:19, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

One answer[edit]

As an effect of the massive flood there would be immense floating mats of vegetation. These mats would be relatively clean, having been washed for a year or so, and presuming some cold ocean currents may have been refrigerated for much of the flood, so would be nice and fresh. So thats it then , the herbivourus animals ate the floating mats of vegetation that drifted by when needed. One might also presume that whales and other aquatic creatures may have fetched food for those land animals. Hamster (talk) 03:44, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

No, the one answer would be that it is complete bullshit and never happened. AceLiquid Room 03:57, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Personally I always wondered...[edit]

About viruses, bacteria and parasites. (we probably need a section on that, but I am so lazy right now). Haven't creationists ever watched discovery channel or something? What about hemorrhagic fevers that kill their host within days? What about parasites that eat the animal from within and can't survive outside it? What about that fungus (do funghi count as animals or plants btw? Did noah carry mushrooms around as well? What about prions and satellite viruses?) that eats ants from within? Was every animal in the ark infected as well? With worms going to eyes and lungs and everywhere, viruses infecting almost all organs (including brain eating amoebas and such. Did cows have CJD?) And I am not even getting into the ethics of God saving all these in the first place. He is so mean. Sen (talk) 23:03, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

The Flood is nonsense![edit]

Why are there still these wacky fundies around? --Thedoctor80 (talk) 17:34, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Because the damn Rapture that was supposed to take them all away keeps not happening, either. --Pere Ubu (talk) 23:30, 10 November 2014 (UTC)