Talk:Prayer

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Hold on, did I win the edit war? Bohdan

Probably not on this one, no. Unless you have more to offer? Oh, btw, Hi Bohdan! humanbe in 00:02, 18 August 2007 (CDT)

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[edit] NOMA

Yet another example of the inappropriate use of science to criticize religion. You should remember that both religion and prayer give a lot of comfort to many people and for that reason they should not be attacked.Tolerance 13:33, 11 April 2008 (EDT)

I don't believe that you fully understand NOMA. It is not a command for everyone on both sides to simply bury their heads. In your very post you mention an effect (better yet, a hypothesis) that can be scientifically tested. The science side of NOMA is meant to not make judgments about the non-scientific aspects of religion. When a religion makes a statement that can be tested scientifically, then it does not fall under NOMA. --Edgerunner76Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? 13:43, 11 April 2008 (EDT)
Three words: freedom of speech. Mockery of ridiculous and unsubstantiated beliefs is important. 80.133.66.20 15:29, 24 April 2008 (EDT)

[edit] Psichological aim of a prayer

Prayer may be seen as a form of Mantra.

I agree that using a prayer to ask/request something from a deity, and after/during the prayer don't do anything to resolve the problem at the root of the request, is stupid and useless. While using a prayer as a mantra to reach a psichological state, to reflect better about the problem, is more sensed.

A prayer don't solve any problem, at most is used to prepare(psicholocically) to solve a problem.

Prayers have also an educational role in religions, like studying is in school. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prayer#Approaches_to_prayer (i'm not suggesting you to copy it xD only to have it a read)— Unsigned, by: Dnanaz / talk / contribs

Prayer may well be used in religion as a form of indoctrination. Nevertheless the article is mainly concerned with people trying to nag a deity (or deities) into doing something on their behalf. That is why people are praying. If they get some other (hypothesised) advantage that is fine - but it's not why they are praying.--BobSpring is sprung! 20:05, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Moar quotes

how 'bout the one that goes something like "two hands working accomplish more than a thousand clasped in prayer" Zau (talk) 01:04, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Surewhynot? Tytalk 01:06, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

[edit] Why you can't use science

Just Because - interesting idea, but it still doesn't free you from the assertion that it "works", as "works" is an observable effect and science - whether you like it or not - tests such observable effects. It doesn't matter how you handwave the underlying mechanism, a hypothesis is still created. Scarlet A.pngnarchist 06:42, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

[edit] BoN edit

This BoN edit made me chuckle for a minute. Reckless Noise Symphony (talk) 08:59, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

[edit] okay if I put my fun page into this article's see also?

Fun:People to pray for
Civic CatTalk to Civic Cat 22:06, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

decided to put it in intercessory prayerCivic CatTalk to Civic Cat 00:46, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
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