Talk:President of the United States
US Presidents are often referred to as "the leader of the free world"
To be honest, I've never heard anyone who wasn't an American use this phrase. When I grew up this phrase was largely considered an American conceit (like US Football having a "world championship" or America being the "Land of the free", as if all the other countries in the West weren't). Wikipedia cites it as being primarily used in American foreign policy statements, or in Anti-American rhetoric.
Obviously the US president is a powerful person - I'm not suggesting otherwise - but the phrase "leader of the free world" is possibly just American jingoism. VOXHUMANA 07:41, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
- I think you're right. Is it going out of fashion though? Strikes me as very Cold War.Albannach (talk) 08:00, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
[edit] Rankings
What happened to the rankings I posted? That was a pain to post. ClothCoat (talk) 00:43, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
[edit] "Historical rankings"
Which historical rankings? The linked-to page at Wikipedia has a whole bunch of different rankings, polls, etc. Where were the ones given here reproduced from, and why not link to the primary source instead of WP? PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.
00:44, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
- I used the Aggr. from the scholar survey results. They don't have one source since it's the combination of many reports of polls. Please post the rankings and add some snark. ClothCoat (talk) 00:50, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not really interested in adding snark. I also don't really see the value added in simply reproducing the work of another wiki project here verbatim. I think a more germane thing to do would be to look at specific polls and talk about what they reveal about the ideological slant of the pollsters, maybe. But if you are going to simply stick someone else's work back in here whole cloth, can you please find a way to reference it so that it's clear what you're quoting? The link you provided led to a page with, like, a half-dozen different rankings listed on it. And the phrase "according to Wikipedia" makes it read like these are WP's rankings. They're not. They're an agglomeration/compilation put together by WP based on other researchers' work. PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.
01:00, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
- Ok well they don't make it entirely clear where they got all the polls. I do note the bias at the end though, about how "popular" presidents may be overrated. Ok so the polls are listed at the top but is their a way to reference a specific area of a Wikipedia page. As in jump straight to "Scholar survey results". ClothCoat (talk) 01:24, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not really interested in adding snark. I also don't really see the value added in simply reproducing the work of another wiki project here verbatim. I think a more germane thing to do would be to look at specific polls and talk about what they reveal about the ideological slant of the pollsters, maybe. But if you are going to simply stick someone else's work back in here whole cloth, can you please find a way to reference it so that it's clear what you're quoting? The link you provided led to a page with, like, a half-dozen different rankings listed on it. And the phrase "according to Wikipedia" makes it read like these are WP's rankings. They're not. They're an agglomeration/compilation put together by WP based on other researchers' work. PowderSmokeAndLeather: Say something once, why say it again?.
[edit] on president clinton
You forgot the part where he ordered the death of innocent people in Waco. But hey, at least you remembered how dern popular he was. :) Burkean (talk) 22:50, 3 June 2014 (UTC)