Talk:Racial pride
I'm on this like a nun sandwich. +1 internet point to anyone who gets the reference. -- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!
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Oh, and don't feed the troll who made this. --Signed by Elassint the Great Hi!
- Well, what do we do then? If we delete, then we open ourselves up to allegations of being like Conservapedia. If we ignore, we get him/her spamming up the whole site. If we block, s/he registers another account. -- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!
- Question for all liberals: why is white pride bad and black pride just fine? Prussian1488 16:58, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- Racism is bad. That is what I think. Anything else is a strawman fallacy on your part.-- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!
- Question for all liberals: why is white pride bad and black pride just fine? Prussian1488 16:58, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- But to you, white pride is racism and black pride isn't. Are you scared to answer why? Prussian1488 17:00, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- Classic troll tactic: "Are you scared to answer why?" --Signed by Elassint the Great Hi! 17:02, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- Apparently you are. So you AREN'T like Conservapedia, or something... Prussian1488 17:03, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- no u. -- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום! PS - Strawman tactics again. Actually, that was probably one of the rare places where 'no u' is a valid comeback.
- Apparently you are. So you AREN'T like Conservapedia, or something... Prussian1488 17:03, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- LOL, yu won't answer. Go ahead and block me, CP admin! Prussian1488 17:04, 28 November 2007 (EST)
No we won't ban you. -- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!
- Answer my question or I will link to Metapedia. Prussian1488 17:07, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- Oh noes! So scared!
- OK, since we evidently negotiate with you lot, I'll repeat what I said earlier. If you are a racist, then I am opposed to that view, whatever ethnic background you come from. -- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!
- But to you, black pride is NOT racism. It is simply a way to redress the hate of the "evil white man". Prussian1488 17:12, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- If it's racist, it's racist. Stop putting words in my mouth. -- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!
- But to you, black pride is NOT racism. It is simply a way to redress the hate of the "evil white man". Prussian1488 17:12, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- I'm sure you people support the SLPC and ADL as well, both of which favor minorities over white poeple. Prussian1488 17:13, 28 November 2007 (EST)
I'm sure you meant SPLC... and the whole persecution complex on behalf of white christians has to stop. Poor babies! The fact is that organizations like the ADL and the SPLC are there to correct power imbalances, and put racial groups on the same footing, not one over the other. It may deprive you of your slavery and cross-burning rights, but really, poor baby!-αmεσ (pirate) 17:15, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- DONT FEED THE TROLL --Signed by Elassint the Great Hi! 17:14, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- Can someone ban Elaissint? Prussian1488 17:15, 28 November 2007 (EST)
No, we lurv him.-αmεσ (pirate) 17:15, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- άγαπη, folks. Anyway, Elassint, we haven't been feeding this troll for months, yet he still comes back for more. I don't think this one's Jeb, though ... - מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!
- Who's Jeb? Prussian1488 17:24, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- Just some guy, y'know? -- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!
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[edit] SPLC Hates free speech
SPLC is a menace to free speech. It esists only to slander and attack people because of their racial pride. It only attacks whites, it nevers says anything about Black Panthers, except when they are anti-semitic. Neo-Nazis deserve freedom without the commie SPLC hindering it. Prussian1488 17:17, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- Are you claiming that you are a Neo-Nazi yourself, Prussian? (stand back people, I'm using science!)-- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!
ZOMG XKCD REF! As for the SPLC, do you have specific allegations, or is it more fun just to bitch generally?-αmεσ (pirate) 17:20, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- SPLC attempts to disrupt the lives of pro-White activists. Prussian1488 17:23, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- Answer the question, Mr Prussia - are you claiming to be a Neo-Nazi? -- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!
- He is a troll --Signed by Elassint the Great Hi! 17:27, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- Answer the question, Mr Prussia - are you claiming to be a Neo-Nazi? -- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!
- Elassint should be banned. He keeps causing edit conflicts, Prussian1488 17:28, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- See above, Elassint, for my reasoning. -- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!
- You know, you can't ban me because i have sysop powa --Signed by Elassint the Great Hi! 17:33, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- See above, Elassint, for my reasoning. -- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!
- Elassint should be banned. He keeps causing edit conflicts, Prussian1488 17:28, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- How about you give me sysop power too? Prussian1488 17:34, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- . . . How about not? Master Bra'tacKree! 17:35, 28 November 2007 (EST)
No, who would want to be demoted? -- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!
- WTF? Prussian1488 17:36, 28 November 2007 (EST)
"Prussian1488"? Of course he's a Neo-Nazi. I go away for an hour to write an article and see what you people let in while I'm away... --AKjeldsenGodspeed! 17:45, 28 November 2007 (EST)
Ah. In that case, do you have a dream, Prussian1488? --Robledo 17:48, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- I'm wondering if I can finally enforce the ICPR that I drafted into RW guidelines many moons ago, AK. ;) -- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!
- Tell you what: Let's try enforcing it for a bit. If he haz problem, he can always complain to the wp:Human Rights Committee, as he is (sorta-by-extension) within his rights to do under Article 41 of the Covenant. --AKjeldsenGodspeed! 18:03, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- Hah, but there's 41:1:c to deal with: '(c) The Committee shall deal with a matter referred to it only after it has ascertained that all available domestic remedies have been invoked and exhausted in the matter, in conformity with the generally recognized principles of international law. This shall not be the rule where the application of the remedies is unreasonably prolonged;'. All available domestic remedies would be, I dunno, whining on a forum? Writing a snarky blog post? -- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!
- These are quite obviously threats (invoking the law), and should not be tolerated. Legalthreatsannihilator 18:13, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- Hah, but there's 41:1:c to deal with: '(c) The Committee shall deal with a matter referred to it only after it has ascertained that all available domestic remedies have been invoked and exhausted in the matter, in conformity with the generally recognized principles of international law. This shall not be the rule where the application of the remedies is unreasonably prolonged;'. All available domestic remedies would be, I dunno, whining on a forum? Writing a snarky blog post? -- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!
- Tell you what: Let's try enforcing it for a bit. If he haz problem, he can always complain to the wp:Human Rights Committee, as he is (sorta-by-extension) within his rights to do under Article 41 of the Covenant. --AKjeldsenGodspeed! 18:03, 28 November 2007 (EST)
FAIL. It's not law in the way that you mean. We're using it as a system of ethics; you wouldn't ban Thomists on similar grounds, would you? Oh, and hi Jeb. -- מְתֻרְגְּמָן וִיקִי שְׁלֹום!
[edit] Black pride is RACIST
And this article should reflect that. Prussian1488 18:16, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- It is only racist if it says that Black is BETTER than White. Which no Black Power person I've ever met has said. (And I've met PLENTY.) Researcher 18:17, 28 November 2007 (EST) EDIT: I take it back, the Nation of Islam has said that plenty of times, and yes, they are racist. But Marcus Garvey, etc., did not, and thus are worthy of respect. Researcher 18:18, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- And as we all know, no race is better than any other race. Do you disagree? --Signed by Elassint the Great Hi! 18:20, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- I dunno. The Indy 500's pretty darn good.
What? -Master Bra'tacKree! 18:51, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- I dunno. The Indy 500's pretty darn good.
- Then white pride isn't racist either. Prussian1488 18:19, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- No, it isn't. It's only when one starts "comparing" that the trouble starts. CЯacke®
- When someone is "proud" of being "white", it's almost ALWAYS a cover for actually hating other races. Most white people in America do not really consider their "whiteness" to be a defining characteristic of their lives; instead, they focus on their religion, their smaller nationality (Irish, British, etc.) Those who actually care enough about the category of "white" almost always do so because they feel threatened by the other "races". This is the seed from which the racism then flows. Now, if you are proud of being "white" (which puts you in the same category as about 1/5 or 1/6 of the planet) without being down on anyone else, then far be it from me to tell you not to be. But the sociological process that causes "racial pride" in a majority suggests that is not the case. (Added to that is the username you use, which explicitly references some VERY racist folks. So, I don't buy it.) Researcher 18:36, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- I notice our troll isn't bothering to read what we add to the article. The reason white pride has a bad name are people who take the pride one step further and denigrate or assault other "races". I'm proud of being Celtic, or whatever the hell it is I am (roman, norse, french, icelandic, who knows how many people invaded Wales?), but it makes me think no less of the French or the Zulus. They're cool too. I'm also embarrassed for the British Empire. See, you can be simulateously proud and ashamed of something! As far as white pride, this prussian person thingie makes me ashamed to be white with his lack of reasoning skills and troglodyte attitudes. human
19:05, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- I notice our troll isn't bothering to read what we add to the article. The reason white pride has a bad name are people who take the pride one step further and denigrate or assault other "races". I'm proud of being Celtic, or whatever the hell it is I am (roman, norse, french, icelandic, who knows how many people invaded Wales?), but it makes me think no less of the French or the Zulus. They're cool too. I'm also embarrassed for the British Empire. See, you can be simulateously proud and ashamed of something! As far as white pride, this prussian person thingie makes me ashamed to be white with his lack of reasoning skills and troglodyte attitudes. human
- When someone is "proud" of being "white", it's almost ALWAYS a cover for actually hating other races. Most white people in America do not really consider their "whiteness" to be a defining characteristic of their lives; instead, they focus on their religion, their smaller nationality (Irish, British, etc.) Those who actually care enough about the category of "white" almost always do so because they feel threatened by the other "races". This is the seed from which the racism then flows. Now, if you are proud of being "white" (which puts you in the same category as about 1/5 or 1/6 of the planet) without being down on anyone else, then far be it from me to tell you not to be. But the sociological process that causes "racial pride" in a majority suggests that is not the case. (Added to that is the username you use, which explicitly references some VERY racist folks. So, I don't buy it.) Researcher 18:36, 28 November 2007 (EST)
- No, it isn't. It's only when one starts "comparing" that the trouble starts. CЯacke®
- Then white pride isn't racist either. Prussian1488 18:19, 28 November 2007 (EST)
See this.--PalMD-If it looks like a donut, eat it 18:39, 28 November 2007 (EST)
i am looking for a web site that will accept my views. i concider myself a "KRACKER GIRL" — Unsigned, by: 71.83.96.215 / talk / contribs 9:19, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
[edit] St. Patrick's Day marchers and neo-Nazis
In Boston the sponsors of the Paddy's day march succeeded - in court - at getting the homosexual Irish float nixed. The Irish-Americans are not the poster children for inclusiveness to compare the Nazis to. ħuman
03:51, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
[edit] Racial Pride=Cultural Pride
Isn't it possible this is what Racial Pride really means. Most Races are from a different continent (Whites from Europe, Blacks from Africa, Asians from Asia, Indians from America etc) Each continent and each country has a unique and rich culture, so when someone says "I am proud to be white" it could simply be a simplified "I am produ to be (insert country here) hell i'm british and damn proud of it. Because many brits are in fact white (note i said most, i know they are many other races living in the UK) than it is resonible to assume we must be proud of being white as well. So i'll keep my tea, toad in the whole, and bangers and mash thank you very much--BenB (talk) 16:22, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
I find it awkward that there isn't a politically correct term to teach my kid about his heritage. Traditionally, my family has celebrated German-Catholic traditions despite having a French surname. However, my kid has German/Swedish/French/Italian/Irish/English/Polish/Native American ancestry. On both sides of his family, his ancestors have been Americans for over 150 years. There isn't a singular "American" heritage that I can pass down, and there are too many parts of his heritage to teach him about. I want him to have some part of his family's history, but it is difficult to give him a history to be proud of when it is so diverse (albeit blindingly white).
[edit] After reading this article...
...I have an urge to, on St. Patrick's Day, march out into the middle of the parade and shout that they have no reason to be proud of being Irish. I won't accuse them of being racist (they don't say non-Irish are lesser people), but why should you be proud of something you had literally no control over? The Heidelberg Kid (talk) 13:40, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- While I feel it's a definitions issue over what "pride" is, I really don't see much to be "proud" of in what you are. It just doesn't make much sense, though often in the case of pride marches it's a case of "not being ashamed". ADK...I'll enumerate your random string of characters! 14:09, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
[edit] Bunch of morons
It's perfectly natural to be proud of your race, if your not then in the long run it will lead to social collapse, a nation is built from people who share the same race, in reality skin colour takes a back seat when speaking about racial difference, Genes, they never lie.— Unsigned, by: 86.11.102.64 / talk / contribs
- Ah, the Natural News fan strikes again. Race is different from ethnicity and national identity. The rest is not coherent enough to be worth addressing.--ZooGuard (talk) 10:32, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
- I am proud to be part of a multicultural, multiethnic, multireligious, multilingual society - and I wouldn't want it any other way. Diversity makes life interesting. Zack Martin
10:50, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
- I am proud to be part of a multicultural, multiethnic, multireligious, multilingual society - and I wouldn't want it any other way. Diversity makes life interesting. Zack Martin
[edit] St. Patrick's Day and homophobia?
Moved to Talk:Homophobia, as it's off-topic SophieWilder 13:38, 19 August 2012 (UTC)