Talk:Republican Party
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[edit] GOP.
Added a reference to "GOP" - as a Brit I never knew who people were talking about when they mentioned the "GOP".--Bob_M (talk) 08:03, 24 July 2007 (CDT)
[edit] Coloured Republicans
Just seen Condaleeeeeza Rice on the Daily Show. I am an outsider (UK) but can anyone explain to me how a "person of color" can support the Republican Party? SusanYou don't have to talk, but ... 16:47, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
I'm less surprised that a black person can support the Republican Party than I am that a working-class person can - 'cause there are many, many more working-class Republican voters than there are black people of any class that support them.
Actually, I'm appalled that working-class people and black people support either the Republican branch or the Democratic branch of the US political system and aren't out on the streets tearing down the system that screws tem so badly, but what can you do? PFoster 16:57, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
- Mm - it was just seeing Ms Rice made me ponder the point. SusanYou don't have to talk, but ... 17:01, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
- If they are Republicans they are "colored", btw. Anyway, the GOP have had their high profile people of color for quite some time - Alan Keyes, ex-pres. hopeful, Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court, etc. The working class folks vote GOP because of "social" issues (God, guns, and gays). There was a book called "What's Wrong With Kansas" that I think tried to analyze why people like this vote against their best interests. As far as people of color, again, in the US the black vote is overwhelmingly (>85%) Democrat. People of various Hispanic descents are more of a cipher, since they are often Catholic and the social issues carry more weight. The real question Americans need to answer is why anyone supports the GOP anymore... human
17:15, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
- If they are Republicans they are "colored", btw. Anyway, the GOP have had their high profile people of color for quite some time - Alan Keyes, ex-pres. hopeful, Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court, etc. The working class folks vote GOP because of "social" issues (God, guns, and gays). There was a book called "What's Wrong With Kansas" that I think tried to analyze why people like this vote against their best interests. As far as people of color, again, in the US the black vote is overwhelmingly (>85%) Democrat. People of various Hispanic descents are more of a cipher, since they are often Catholic and the social issues carry more weight. The real question Americans need to answer is why anyone supports the GOP anymore... human
I'm a huge Thomas Frank fan - check out "The Conquest of Cool" - not really related to what he's getting at in "Kansas," but a great read about the advertising business. As for why "anyone" supports the GOP - why should anyone support the Dems for that matter? It's not like Barak or Billary or John Kerry have any of them have the people's best interest in mind. If they did, they wouldn't have made it to where they are. PFoster 18:51, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
- See our articles on the parties. Agreed. Kucinich is cool, but marginalized. Greens might be good, but also marginalized in a two-party system. We need a new party. Meantime, I'd take conservative Billary over nutjob right-wingers any day. Can we get a "real liberal" soon? I doubt it. Keep in mind that the right wingnuts think Hillary is an extreme left winger. How much wow is there in that? human
21:22, 31 October 2007 (EDT)
[edit] update
gop is helping greens in texas http://www.statesman.com/news/texas-politics/supreme-court-lets-green-party-on-the-ballot-783443.html
- Hmmmm, helping greens = hurting democrats... ħuman
22:45, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- Also, the SC of TX is not really "the GOP". I realize they are all republicans, but that doesn't provide the direct connection. ħuman
22:49, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
- Also, the SC of TX is not really "the GOP". I realize they are all republicans, but that doesn't provide the direct connection. ħuman
[edit] These guys are fucking clown shoes
Discuss --Edgerunner76
00:13, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
- When you see someone make
BonerBoehnerBoner look like the Voice of Reason, you know you're not looking at some bright political lights. Theory of Practice "Now we stand outcast and starving 'mid the wonders we have made." 00:33, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
[edit] A very long list of Republicans
Any particular reason you want them alphabetized by first name, OS? Doesn't make sense to me. Wehpudicabok (talk) 08:19, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
[edit] Kevin Phillips in Timeline?
Would anyone support mentioning Nixon political strategist Kevin Phillips in the timeline? I think that the interview he did with the New York Times on May 17, 1970 may be worth mentioning due to this quote:
"From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that. Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats."
This was basically the official announcement that the Republican Party had to appeal to racists if they wanted to win elections. It may be something worth noting on the timeline, though I am unsure about that. Crow7878 (talk) 05:51, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
- Mention it on the Southern Strategy page. ClothCoat (talk) 03:56, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
[edit] William H. Taft
Alluding to Taft as a business-aligned conservative may be a stretch; Taft brought more anti-Trust litigation under the Sherman Anti-Trust Act in four years than Teddy did in eight. nobs"It all depends what Isil is" 03:48, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
[edit] Gates
- Secretary of Defense Robert Gates: He hasn't renounced his party allegiance,
Perhaps if you look at what the Democrats did to Gates in 1987 upon William Casey's death you'd understand why he'll never be a Democrat. It was pretty fucking disgusting. When they finally did approve him to a cabinet post 20 years later, I'm sure he was thrilled, and took it as a belated apology for besmirching his reputation for 20 years of his life. It's laughable having that uninformed, and ill-informed shit on this page, as if you're educating or enlightening somebody about the truth about anything. nobsI was in Bagdad when u wer in dadsbag. 07:35, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
Even Wikipedia still devotes a tremendous amount of space of baseless, slanderous Democrat-McCarthyite crap which, after you read through all of it, says "there's no there there". Why would he ever even consider becoming a Democrat when they never gave him a fair hearing, not until Obama came along 20-odd years later? yet the malicious, slanderous crap, after his noble service to the Obama administration, remains in Wikipedia? nobsI was in Bagdad when u wer in dadsbag. 07:50, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, why would anyone worry about that old stuff, right robs? I mean it's not like CIA spooks are constantly being suspected of not being totally above board, and there has never been any conspiracy theories about the CIA either, so why spend time going through details and concluding that one of them was, in fact, not involved in a major scandal, know what I mean?
- There's a pretty good reason why the Dems were tough on Gates in '87, it's called Iran-Contra. Remember that you (and Gates) can thank the same William Casey and Saint Ronnie for that one, incl. the damage it (initially) did by association to Gate's reputation for having been Casey's deputy director at the CIA...
- Fun fact, it was a Congress in the hands of a Democratic majority which approved Gates' nomination by Bush Sr. as Director of Central Intelligence in 1991 - after Gates' role (or rather lack of it) in Iran-Contra had been made clear. In other words, rather than the EEEEVUUUULZ Democrats "besmirching his reputation for 20 years of his life", a mere 4 years after having effectively denied Gates the CIA top job due to his unclear role in Casey & Ronnie's shenanigans, the Democrats actually joined in approving Gates for that very same job. ScepticWombat (talk) 08:12, 28 February 2015 (UTC)