Talk:Society of Jesus
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Negative pages on the BP can be readily found - but see also [1]. 17:28, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
- I have to admit I am bias as I attend a Jesuit school, and have since high school, but shouldn't a bit more be said about their education (system, style, ect.)? δij
01:34, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
- Make it so. Wẽãšẽĩõĩď
Methinks it is a Weasel 08:21, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
- Make it so. Wẽãšẽĩõĩď
As a 'wonderful example' of 'rather more than middling irrationality' [2] 171.33.222.26 (talk) 17:28, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
[edit] Suggestions
This article is a good start but a couple things should probably be added. The most immediate correction should be that criticism of the Jesuits was common among Enlightenment age thinkers, not just Protestants, who viewed the Society as being tied to the inquisition. The education system they have set up is commendable and should be mentioned. Also one of their mixed legacies is in the Missions they ran for Native Americans in both South America and North America. While acculturation and disease devastated Indian tribes the Jesuits earned admiration, and condemnation for attempting to recreate the Indian societies. There mission was to "civilize" the Indians but unlike the other "civilizing" European missionaries the Jesuits never got the memo that they were supposed to make the Indians subordinate and dependent on the colonialist's culture. Their fabulously successful South American Indian Reductions are a prime example of there efforts and the European Governments (France, Spain, and Portugal) suppressed the Jesuits for this and other reasons the moment they got a Pope who was willing to go along with it (which they survived obviously). The Guarani were not stupid and knew well what the point of the suppression was and defended the reductions from Colonialist raiders long after the Jesuits were recalled back to Europe to face the inquisition. Hence Paraguay is the only country in the New World where European immigrants who arrive there actually feel obligated to learn an indigenous language. Alsto003 (talk) 20:15, 21 September 2014 (UTC) Alex
[edit] WAKE UP
YOU GUYS NEED TO WAKE UP!!!
sOME HINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsnwGgo-YCg
History_of_the_Jesuits Their Origin, Progress, Doctrines, and Design by G. B. Nicolini.pdf http://www.mediafire.com/download/1gg...
The Secret History of Jesuits by Edmond Paris (1975).pdf http://www.mediafire.com/download/mk4...
The Black Pope, A History of the Jesuits by M. F. Cusack Formerly the Nun of Kenmare.pdf http://www.mediafire.com/download/4mw...
RULERS OF EVIL - F. TUPPER SAUSSY http://www.granddesignexposed.com/pdf...
"My history of the Jesuits is not eloquently written, but it is supported by unquestionable authorities, [and] is very particular and very horrible. Their [the Jesuit Order's] restoration [in 1814 by Pope Pius VII] is indeed a step toward darkness, cruelty, despotism, [and] death. ... I do not like the appearance of the Jesuits. If ever there was a body of men who merited eternal damnation on earth and in hell, it is this Society of [Ignatius de] Loyola."
- John Adams (1735-1826; 2nd President of the United States)
"Above all I have learned from the Jesuits. And so did Lenin too, as far as I recall. The world has never known anything quite so splendid as the hierarchical structure of the [Roman] Catholic Church. There were quite a few things I simply appropriated from the Jesuits for the use of the [Nazi] Party.
- Adolph Hitler (1889-1945; Nazi leader and chancellor of Germany from 1933-1945)
((Ed. Comment: What follows is a similar quotation of Hitler taken from Edmond Paris' book The Vatican Against Europe.))
"I have learnt most of all from the Jesuit Order. So far, there has been nothing more imposing on earth than the hierarchical organization of the Catholic Church. A good part of that organization I have transported direct to my own party. The Catholic Church must be held up as an example. I will tell you a secret. I am founding an order. In Himmler (who would become head of the Nazi party) I see our Ignatius de Loyola (Jesuit founder)."
-- Adolph Hitler
"The Jesuits are a MILITARY organization, not a religious order. Their chief is a general of an army, not the mere father abbot of a monastery. And the aim of this organization is power -- power in its most despotic exercise -- absolute power, universal power, power to control the world by the volition of a single man. Jesuitism is the most absolute of despotisms -- and at the same time the greatest and most enormous of abuses."
-- Napoleon I (i.e., Napoleon Bonaparte; 1769-1821; emperor of the French)
"It is my opinion that if the liberties of this country -- the United States of America -- are destroyed, it will be by the subtlety of the Roman Catholic Jesuit priests, for they are the most crafty, dangerous enemies to civil and religious liberty. They have instigated MOST of the wars of Europe."
-- Marquis de LaFayette (1757-1834; French statesman and general. He served in the American Continental Army under the command of General George Washington during the American Revolutionary War.)
"Alas, I knew they [i.e., the Jesuits] would poison me; but I did not expect to die in so slow and cruel a manner." (1774)
- Pope Clement XIV (Who had "forever" abolished the Jesuit Order in 1773)
"The war [i.e., the American Civil War of 1861-1865] would never have been possible without the sinister influence of the Jesuits."
- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865; 16th President of the United States) "[Wherever] a totalitarian movement erupts, whether Communist or Nazi [Fascist], a Jesuit can be found in the role of 'adviser' or leader; in Cuba [it was] [Jesuit-trained] Castro's 'Father' Armando Llorente..."
- Emanuel M. Josephson (American physician and historian)