Talk:Unschooling
As there were no opinions voiced either way (being in the wrong time zone and therefore asleep is not an excuse! :P) I've made this as a new article. It could possibly do with adding some extra snark as it reads as some kind of unreferrenced advert for it at the moment. Also, potentially a moonbat category but I'm not sure if it's stictly that. ArmondikoVd hominem 14:26, 28 November 2008 (EST)
We need to do much better than this. My mother has a case in a divorce where a child was in "unschooling." Now, in his teens, he is unable to perform even the most basic academic functions. A local court ordered psychologist who is the "default" guy who assesses all the kids in troubled divorces said he was the most academically backward, unmotivated, child he had ever worked with. He is functionally illiterate, and seems to have trouble with any kind of goal oriented actions. The saddest part is that he exhibits all kinds of signs of being a potentially highly intelligent child. Anecdotes are anecdotes, but a fluff piece is not worthy of RW. tmtoulouse 20:22, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
- I propose we all take some time off from being drama whores and pound on this article for a bit.
d hominem 08:44, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
- Agreed, this article should be way better than this, and I know we can do better. Unfortunately, if I continue editing, my gf will become my ex, so good night all. Conservative Punk (talk) 08:52, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
- Well goodnight. Also, this sort of reminds me of that Dan Brown chap/prat on YouTube saying that "college was interfering with my education". Thunderf00t made a pretty angry blast at him for it. So you might "lose your individuality" (well, not really, its that lecturers don't constantly reassure you of it by holding your hand, a good university program enhances your individuality, but you have to, shock horror, work that out for yourself) but this is the trade-off for developing an education system whereby people can be taught in the numbers that our population throws at us. If you can find a way of efficiently transferring very specialist knowledge to half a million people a year without having to do lectures and structured learning, I'd like to see it.
d hominem 09:35, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
- Well goodnight. Also, this sort of reminds me of that Dan Brown chap/prat on YouTube saying that "college was interfering with my education". Thunderf00t made a pretty angry blast at him for it. So you might "lose your individuality" (well, not really, its that lecturers don't constantly reassure you of it by holding your hand, a good university program enhances your individuality, but you have to, shock horror, work that out for yourself) but this is the trade-off for developing an education system whereby people can be taught in the numbers that our population throws at us. If you can find a way of efficiently transferring very specialist knowledge to half a million people a year without having to do lectures and structured learning, I'd like to see it.
- Agreed, this article should be way better than this, and I know we can do better. Unfortunately, if I continue editing, my gf will become my ex, so good night all. Conservative Punk (talk) 08:52, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
[edit] Sources of information
Where the fuck subjects of unschooling are supposed to get their information from, especially on subjects such as science? Surely they are not dropped a pile of peer-reviewed papers and told to "swim or sink"? Advanced material requires introductory material, i.e. some kind of textbook, and a sequence of "things you need to know before you can learn other things", i.e. a curriculum. And having someone "in the know" to explain you things (i.e. a teacher) helps a lot. But don't they consider all these things "evil"?--ZooGuard (talk) 15:35, 20 August 2010 (UTC) PS. This blogger seems to be an advocate for unchooling. --ZooGuard (talk) 15:40, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
- I was pretty much unschooled for high school (health problems at the time made it pretty much impossible to attend school) and I used textbooks from the local high school. At least around here (I live in southeastern Illinois), public schools are required to provide textbooks in such a way, which is how it was possible. --GastonRabbit (talk) 21:32, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
- The Internet and books. That's kind of what I did: although I did go to public school, I only actually learned things outside of school. I could study to my interests at home, and it just so happens that I tended to have the entire grade's curriculum mastered years before I got to that grade. The Heidelberg Kid (talk) 23:37, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
[edit] If someone wishes to engage...
This podcast is supposed to contain a refutation of the article: http://www.everything-voluntary.com/2014/10/episode-039-criticisms-of-unschooling.html (By the way, I don't even remember starting the section above. Memory is a funny thing.)--ZooGuard (talk) 11:06, 5 October 2014 (UTC)