Talk:Watergate scandal

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US Grammar of the word 'president'[edit]

The USA always capitalizes President, Presidency, etc in reference to history, it is different from European conventions for several reasons related to Bicameralism.--Andrewstewart1 (talk) 21:27, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

For conspiracy theorists[edit]

The World Bank had previously considered occupying the site (in Foggy Bottom and previously owned by he Gas Works of the Washington Gas Light Company) and there was a Vatican connection. 82.44.143.26 (talk) 18:08, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

There's a commie in the closet…[edit]

Contrafactual[edit]

Given the personalities of Nixon and his 'cabinet, associates and others in his close circle', how inevitable was Watergate in some form or other? 'But for the break-in and the investigation into it' the details might have emerged somewhat later (including 'the missing minutes' - there would have been no reason to obliterate them if there was no investigation). Anna Livia (talk) 12:42, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Honestly, the whole Vietnam treason thing should've been when Nixon went down. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 14:53, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
It's an interesting question. Was Nixon worse than his predecessors, or simply unlucky enough to be caught at a particular point in time, when it was no longer possible for the establishment to suppress scandals, but before people ceased to care if their leaders were criminals? --Annanoon (talk) 15:11, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
Again, I think the Vietnam treason thing puts him as worse than anyone going back to at least Harding. ikanreed 🐐Bleat at me 15:20, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
I have read that LBJ also bugged conversations (a story from somewhere - Bobby Kennedy visited and said 'all sorts of interesting things', and had a jamming device so nothing got recorded).
The question was about Watergate as such rather than Vietnam (the two things being somewhat distinct): would Nixon and various of his subordinates have inevitably moved into 'criminal activities whatever the context - or would some combination of personalities, interactions and intents, and chance' have led them to being regarded as mere grey hats, willing to operate somewhat outside the rules in order to achieve a goal. Anna Livia (talk) 17:29, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
I'll take the question regarding the 18 minute gap in taps serious when Hillary's 33,000 emails are recovered and obstruction of justice serious when they people who smashed Hillary's phone under subpoena with hammers are charged. Until then, this article is bullshit. nobsI'm dumbstrzok! 16:14, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Another Watergate[edit]

Can be found close to Embankment Station, London and the former Of Alley (and if George Villiers were around today would he have a RW page?). Anna Livia (talk) 15:25, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

A little gem of jest – from the great Mort Sahl[edit]

LeucippusSalva veritate 01:09, 9 May 2022 (UTC)