Talk:Whiteknighting

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Still hilarious though. Scarlet A.pngd hominem 01:45, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

You have awful taste in memes, Armond. I can do you one better. Star of David.png Radioactive Misanthrope 01:56, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
why is this i don't even EVDebs (talk) 02:00, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
I'm sure it's been used in an anti-feminist way, but once you've seen them in action on the internet it becomes less an anti-feminist move and more a statement of fact. I do know one girl who got massively creeped out by someone doing it day-in-day-out for like a month. Of course, it shouldn't be abused as an excuse to dismiss just anyone coming to someone else's defence; as what I've been calling White-Knighting for a while now really crosses into stalking. Scarlet A.pngsshole 11:13, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, I know one of those people too -- he's pretty much the dumbest person I've ever met. But it's a very common accusation by trolls that almost always translates to "you couldn't possibly be wanting to help her if you don't want to fuck her so go away while I put her in her place". It's more common on places like 4chan and Reddit, as well as occasionally on feminist blogs. (The article was actually inspired by the recent attacks on Laci Green for her video about the clitoris, and there were explicit accusations of whiteknighting against her defenders, even on her facebook page.) EVDebs (talk) 19:00, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

[edit] " is a term used largely by anti-feminists to describe the situation when a man comes to a woman's defense in a heckling situation."

Really? I had it all wrong. I had always understood that "whiteknighting" was a term used to describe a man trying to show what a "great guy" he was by coming to a woman's defence in order to advance his own agenda re: said woman, and that part of the scorn involved with the term was the inherent assumption that women need men to defend them. Update -- I see the article goes on to say just that; the difference is I thought that feminists used the term to call predatory men masking their actions as benevolent. Father Vivian O'Blivion (talk) 15:19, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

[edit] I'm not sure if it belongs in the article but...

I found this thread on TSR that I somehow simultaneously found amusing and bad for my will to live.TheSocktor (talk) 14:26, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Part of the reason I'm beginning to dislike cynicism. It leads to such jackassery. Nullahnung (talk) 14:38, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
You know what the worst part of it is? When you finally decide to convince the jackasses that they are wrong, then after varying amounts of conceding points to you they'll head straight into the backfire effect to save face for something so silly as not losing an argument on the internet, when the main issue is not the stupid internet argument you two were having, but the actual topic at hand. The best strategy is generally to say something sensible, then back off and hope they will come around to being a bit convinced by you after they are out of the influential range of the backfire effect. Nullahnung (talk) 14:49, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
Erm... eww. Scarlet A.pngDon't click here 16:03, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

[edit] Can we talk...

Section title added by me.--ZooGuard (talk) 17:11, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Can we talk about the frequency with which feminist critics of Sarkeesian, Watson, et al are frequently gaslit and disingenuosly portrayed as MRAs? Can we talk about how the less privileged the woman in question the more likely this is to happen?— Unsigned, by: 209.89.28.194 / talk / contribs 16:20, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Reference? --Drowninginlimbo (talk) 16:27, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
Any reason this is on the talk page of this specific article?--ZooGuard (talk) 17:11, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
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