Melodramatic and irony meter busting considering we've just had someone drive an innocent and productive editor away and then deny they did anything wrong and few seem to be giving much of a crap about that.
Take me to the coop (or the mod page) if you think there is a case. I'll defend myself and take any punishment that is deemed necessary without qualification. Drove an editor away? Please.
Well, as I said before I think Ace was well-meaning at that point (I dunno about other points) and any harassment was probably of the unintentional variety. I doubt there's a need to coop anyone, I think it's more convincing people to actually pay attention to how they act, and not assume other people will automatically know your intentions or have the same sense of humour.
Basically, try to treat other folks on the wiki in a decent way. We (and I include me in this) do tend to get a bit carried away at times.
Firstly while the person who emailed me to "update me on the situation" no doubt had the best of intentions, please let me say that I really want this issue to die. (ie: RPEH will be well justified in telling me to fuck off yet again.)
Now, while I cannot declare what Ace's actual intentions were, I certainly regarded it as harassment, and identified it as such.
Ace's current position appears to be "I did absolutely nothing wrong and Vox is a weird drama-creating newcomer that no-one should care about". He labels his harassment as "easily reverted", despite the fact that when I tried to revert he immediately undid it and then blocked me for 30 mins . I'm sorry for not seeing the humour in that.
I'll also note that Ace's alleged attempt to make peace ("Perhaps we have got off on the wrong foot - here is some music you might like"?") was made AFTER I had posted my LANCB statement, and even Trent observed that to an outsider it appeared to be "assholeish".
I like it here at RW and feel I have a lot to contribute. All I want is for Ace to agree to never post on my talk page, either here or at RWW, and to not deliberately antagonize me elsewhere. He is a mod, and should thus be the exemplar of behaviour, not the instigator of such harassment. If there is a way of bringing this about, then please let me know.
and should thus be the exemplar of behaviour Mods are not "better" users nor do they have any requirement to act in any particular manner unless specifically moderating.
There's no requirement, but ideally mods shouldn't make new problems without good reason.
Riffing off what both you and Ace said, nobody should make new problems without good reason.
I mean seriously, unless it's a flamingly obvious troll like Marcus or Rob, why antagonize people at all?
I wasn't deliberately trying to antagonise anyone, and attempted an apology in my own special way. I still maintain I wasn't 'driving an editor away' and I feel Vox is being quite precious about the whole thing. If anyone feels otherwise they are welcome to take me to admin abuse/coop where I'll defend myself and accept any, if at all, punishment deemed fit by the community.
You know very well nothing would come of a cooping, because the rules don't actually cover trolling and harassment.
Please, for the love of god Brx, stay out of arguments that you don't need to be in...this is the main reason you are disliked.
I am throwing that in your face the next time you crash my talk page
Ace, I am not asking for an apology, nor expecting any admission of guilt. I do not wish to initiate any formal process, or create any more drama.
I would simply like you to undertake to never again post on my talk page, or deliberately attempt to antagonize me elsewhere. If you agree to that, then this whole matter can be dropped and I can go back to writing articles and contributing in whatever other way I can.
Well, I never said you were. In fact, I said at least twice that I gave you benefit of the doubt and any harassment on your part would have been unintentional.
All I'm asking is that everyone (not singling you out, me too) just be aware that what's straightforward to you might not be to someone else. We've all got different perspectives, and when it comes down to it gotta get along to some degree.
Hmm, maybe I wasn't really clear in my earlier comment. What I was getting at was where AD said that mods should take care to not start trouble where there isn't any, it follows from what you're saying that where mods aren't better than anyone else then everyone should try for that standard.
Mods are just aware of the fact, is all.