I made no personal attacks. Blue's edit filter changes should be reverted immediatly - Blue has no authority to make the changes she did
Voxhumana complained about Ace's posts on his talk-page. Blue put on an abuse filter that gave Ace a warning if he posted on Voxhumana's talk-page. Ace took away her tech rights. Her abuse filter changes were reverted.
....and we are left in a fix about whether or not Ace should give said rights back, obviously.
Grrrrrrr! Shit like this is why we cannot have nice things.
She shouldn't get back her tech rights. That was not the best way to handle the situation, as it only exacerbated it. That's unfortunate. It's hard to feel too bad for Ace because it was only made slightly harder for him to keep purposefully irritated someone, but nonetheless this was a misstep. Right direction, wrong footing.
It's the same thing I tried. If you can't talk sense into people and convince them to play nice (you tried, and it didn't work), force them. Unfortunately, it doesn't work.
Except nothing I did had anything to do with "force"! I honestly don't think you understand what I did, AD.
It's metaphorical force. No one thinks you hopped a plane to NZ with a wooden spoon and shackles.
Maybe you're right, though - I am not as techie as you. I was under the impression that you edited the settings on the AbuseFilter extension so that whenever Ace tried to edit Vox's talk page, he was faced with an automated warning?
When he clicked save, he got a warning (like when you forget an edit summary and have that option enabled), and had to save again.
It's basically an edit notice that appears above the toolbar with a generic notification. Like an edit conflict, but your post isn't lost. In no way does it inconvenience editing or make it any harder for Ace to actually do the deed. Lazy moderating on my part, as I probably should have talked to Ace directly.
Yes, no-one weeps for Ace because he had to click an extra button to annoy someone with his usual childish antics, but you have to realize that the filter is a very powerful tool, so naturally people view all activity with suspicion. Maybe tomorrow you'll write a filter that prevents him from editing any talk page.
Insightful! Yes, I think that's exactly it. I know she meant well, and I know you did too. But it would be wiser not to give her back tech for a while. Eventually she probably should, because she actually does a lot of great work in that gritty and unglamorous behind-the-signs style. Like you did, actually! I hope you're back and to stay, by the way.
Or...Vox complained I had engaged in a campaign of abuse (no such evidence has been provided of said abuse), he (or she I suppose) left citing my 'abuse' as the reason, after he left I carried on a conversation with DickTurpis on his talkpage, he came back and complained I was further abusing him, Blue took it upon herself to edit the filter so that I was warned anytime I tried commenting on Vox's page and suggested if I continued she would take of it.
A) No 'abuse' has been presented B) Blue doesn't have the authority to make said changes C) What the fuck?
Seems to me that she moderated. Can moderators not modify the abuse filter?
From a raw "user rights" standpoint, moderators do not have the power to edit the abuse filter unless they also have "tech" rights.
I think that letting moderators use the abuse filter would go to great lengths in furthering their task. Remember when Nx protected Mara's talk page from vandalism? Then again, putting such power in the hands of Ace would be a terrible, terrible idea.
Ah, but using the abuse filter requires some programming knowledge and, again, it's currently restricted to Tech users. Though I disagree with the sentiment of not allowing one to be the other. It would be a poor use of the talent here to not let Blue be both a Tech and a Moderator simply because we think that's too much power for someone to have. We, as a community, really need to either 1) gain a better sense of trust in our community or 2) not elect people to the Moderator position if we don't trust them.
not elect people to the Moderator position if we don't trust them Unfortunately, a large offsetting factor in mod elections is popularity, and not trust
putting such power in the hands of Ace would be a terrible, terrible idea. Jesus man, I am starting to sound like Magneto.