speaking of the push to monotheism... in my religion... or maybe my history class i had last semester; my teacher gave out the idea that the push to monotheism was possibly related to the exile; as a crisis point where the Israelite's had to deal with the fact "Our god/gods lost, how do we deal with this" and the idea that it was go further into monotheism (from what looks like henotheism at best) or abandon Yahweh and pick the better, victorious gods.
It's possible, then again *anything* is possible. You have a "moment" of monothesim in Egypt that is far better documented, and it really does just kinda come out of knowwhere, as a "thinking person" says something along the lines of "wait, this is stupid. no oen has ever seen these gods, so the god must not be a bunch of little things".
you COULD say that, but ancient gods tended to be petty vindictive fuckers, best not to anger them
That is perhaps why it only lasted one or two generations. but the more you read about it from so-called "source" (translated, of course) the more it's an interesting perspective.
Why did Akenaten, so out of the blue, decide there is only one god. had he talked with others? was he the first? and why is his god so transcendent in a world of earthly gods.
Whenever people say "ancient gods," I always wonder about the implied new gods. (Pre-empting the inevitable comic book reference.) Are there any hippie-dippie gods out there?
There are some interesting theories about things like "aliens", big foot and "robot worlds" that modern science fed society still needs something um... "super natural" or "mystical" or "not-understandable" so those are the new things paople have made up.
and every time we move "god" from a thing (lightening, death, the spinning of the earth, the creation of life, the creation of the earth) we still cling to this "need" for a god, we just keep making it more and more abstract. few people, really are ready to truly let go of a god. I think it's under 20% of the population, and most of them are highly educated in sciences.
And out of those, how many worship the invisible hand of the market, the environment, the blind watchmaker of natural selection, science, or technology.
depends on what you mean by "worship." I define myself as an athist pagan. I rather like ritual, love candles and teh symbology of lighting and extinguishing flames, etc. It's very rewarding for me to praise nature, the universe etc.
and i use ritual in my daily life. "magic" if you will, that i know is just reinforcement of my own inner strength. I light a candle in a "rite" to "lose weight" when what i really know is that i'm just focusing on what i want to accomplish and how to do it. but it feels good, calming, empowering even.
It's one reason i'm rather curt with the "there is nothing good about religion" types. There is importance, and it does fill parts of life. things science and logic and reason can't fill.
I still believe in a god because to me that makes sense, and its what i feel. i dont have any real proof besides "the universe". but it makes sense to me.
Nothing wrong with that.
My only issue, really, is with anti-science types. people who will say "I don't care what science says, it goes against my book".
that and anyone trying to take their book and turn it into laws.
Mmmmm. In what way does it "make sense" to you? Could you elaborate?
standard "universe is complex, beautiful and everything" Argument, but naturalistic world directed by a god. I dont have much to prove it, just how i feel, possibly influenced still by YEC beliefs; sorta hard to explain.
It's just when you said it "made sense" I thought you might have an interesting logical argument. But, well, thanks for answering.
Bob, almost no one at that point of the argument has anything better than "cause it's what i feel"; which should not be dismissed as lightly as many do. It is a strange thing to contemplate that everything came from nothing, or has always been.